If the flame of the West is snuffed out and the choice is between Islam and “social justice,” I’m choosing the former. Return Of Kings has long pointed out the travesty of open borders migration, which brings in hordes of anti-Western young men from the Middle East. Notwithstanding this, Islamized societies are much more preferable to the many social sicknesses pushed by SJWs.
Should our values be basically exterminated, aside from private contrarian opinions, I am certain that at least superficially going along with Islam will be the right choice for readers of this website as well. The legitimate criticisms we might have of Islam and its applications within countries pale in comparison to the anti-civilization core of so-called social justice. At least we can say that Muslim men are motivated by basic notions of patriarchy and an acknowledgment of gender differences.
The better of two bad situations
Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia > than whatever this “guy” is taking.
Here are just some of the advantages a society based on Sharia Law has over a “society” predicated on social justice principles:
- Unless you fall afoul of a member of the social or political elite, a false rape accusation against a man is extremely unlikely;
- No affirmative action quota is apt to take your job or promotion away from you and give it to a woman;
- The court systems will not buttress the power of activists and others who insist that your child has the “right” to be injected with hormones of the opposite sex and remove the genitals they were born with;
- Crime in your neighborhood will be dealt with, instead of local authorities or the judiciary determining punishments based on gender or race;
- Female hypergamy will be kept in check; and
- When couples divorce, the wife will know that she will almost never be unjustly enriched, like women with little earning power who get multimillion-dollar payouts from husbands for the rest of their lives.
Put simply, the average man will face far less persecution in an Islamized society than one run by SJWs. Without being defeatist, should the West need to die for a time, embracing Islam is the logical choice for someone who wants to make the most of a collapsed political order.
There’s weight in numbers, too
How can the SJWs control this?
In addition to the rough ideological affinities we share with patriarchal Muslims, demographic realities support the idea of choosing Islam over leftism (if a choice could ever exist). Germany, the United Kingdom, and France are all projected to have Muslim populations of around 20% mid-century. A social laboratory like Sweden will be nearly a third Muslim by that time. Moreover, the political salience of these communities will be even greater than these soon-to-be massive numbers suggest, including the ability to use, like now, aggressive tactics to further Islamic interests.
The mostly pozzed non-Muslim majority will have to kowtow much of the time to the newer arrivals and their descendants. By 2050, expect the incompetence of SJWs to be fully laid to bare, with the authorities powerless to stop the encroachment of strict Muslim values in, say, a “liberal” France or Sweden. Given the option to join with either self-respecting Muslims or obsequious leftists, I know what decision I will be making, potentially long before 2050.
What’s your plan?
Ready?
Roosh recently spoke about the black pill and the need to accept that all we can sometimes do is enjoy the social decline around us. Likewise, the Age of Trump hasn’t changed many of the deleterious SJW influences within our universities, media outlets, and “popular culture.” The end is not right around the corner, but a lot is still wrong with our societies.
Once the actual fall comes, however, people will have to stop observing and make choices. Inasmuch as we cannot predict everything, the probable successors to Western civilization are already known to us. As of 2017, adopting Islam in the future is the more common sense course of action.
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First we had “give up on women and get a sex robot” and now “give up and convert to Islam”. Can this site get any lower?
Is the author a muslim undercover agent ???
Sounds like a pure propaganda shit.
The author failed to state that the segregation of young men from women in Muslim society causes men to hold hands in public and pound herd animals. That’s why maryters are promised 88 black-eyed virgins for blowing up their underwear, while they’re still in them. A dude bro getting steady ass doesn’t detonate his own balls on the promise of more ass.
GodOfMasculinity who? Adonis?
There is no such thing as undercover agent in islam.
الله اكبر
Reading comments and reactions to this quite provocative article here is a good clue that ROK people are sane people with iron solid convictions. Thanks To all !
Would you rather cut a quarter acre of grass with your teeth or lap up a fifteen foot by fifteen foot puddle?
Would you rather slide down a five thousand foot escape rope wearing nothing but gloves or slide down the rope with no gloves or shoes and fully clothed?
Would you rather shove a dildo full of glass shards up your ass or would you rather gouge your eyes out with a hot iron.
If they increase at 25% per generation , and actually they increase over 50% per generation, then they will increase by over 100 times in 21 generations. They don’t need 10,000% growth to be majority they need just to increase ten fold from current numbers to reach 300 million which is a majority, or with just increasing by 50% every generation so with no migration then need under 6 generations to 300 million in Europe which with average birth at age say 25 years at 6 generations 150 years. The countries where they approach majority will suffer “white flights” such as sweden and france and be ceded much sooner than we think even within our lifetimes. Muslims don’t assimilate.
When in majority will they vote Islamist like everywhere else?
Europe is Junk stock. If you can leave now do since your posessions still have value. In the rush, there will be a crush. Too cucked to even turn back boats.
In some western euopean countries tens of thousands per year are also converting often women for marriage of the over a million non-muslim women they marry each year in Europe. They convert men who cannot then marry due to shortages and then men in jail and who are looking for friends. The level of convertion is massive and the wave to take europe is here.
ITS OVER BOYOS!
Of course the powers that be must accept about 3 outcomes
1) War – most likely I believe in the long run.
2) Destruction through breeeding/migration and then democratic elections of islamic governments in Europe
3) Early quotas on muslim birthrates and migration. So simple and realistic as other options are enormously more worrisome but too cucked to attempt.
Option 2) as a choice requires the dodging of option 1) . When one country falls probably Sweden don’t think you will find any whites even in France who are against war. Can you find any white working class French men against war today? If thousands of years of European history can teach you anything its that Europeans love war. Its because they excel at it quite honestly.
Liberals expect Muslims to a large portion of the women with laws against us taking their women and the men to sit twiddling thumbs as incels ready for death? They then think Europeans will sit back and as a force takes the majorities and take the elections without even a war as bloody as the first world war?
Ok liberals you win. Good call on migration. Beautiful multicultural societies seem likely and enrich the lives of everybody. My prediction and I would bet money on it is that within Europe we will see a war that is more bloody than the first world war, and will be within 50 years.
With islamic growing popuation the only question is when the shit hits the fan and not if. If my estimates were out by a twenty years or fifty, and they didn’t involve any migration, all that means is that the shit hits the fan later. The only thing we know is that the shit will hit the fan none of us know exactly when it will hit however.
I can grow a beard and get up a bit earlier if it means I get to keep my house and children, while she gets stoned to death for her adultery.
Old man got no chills, arent sharia law available in the west as an option
And the realistic alternative to SJWs is…
Fuck this, white Christian Catholic Sharia now
The west was founded on Christianity..
It can and it will
For one last time, briefly it will come. Gods willing
Neither !!!
Coming from the middle east I GUARANTEE you that it is a living hell for men too.
The women are very conservative on the outside ( sounds good huh ? ) and very WHORISH inside their homes.
If you fuck an arabic girl and you left her ….. she will tell her brothers,father and tribe and they will deal with you in 2 scenario :
1-) They will kill you instantly
2-) They will take a woman from your family as a compensation for honor.
And the bitch you fucked will be stoned to death.
Fuck Islam and fuck the SJW shit.
I once got arrested by muslim group cause I was drinking and listening to Heavy Metal music when i was a teenager. because music and drinking is forbidden.
Judeo- Christian principles are the best one created to give a freedom of speech and expression to all people ( except the libtards fucks who wants you to go back to Victorian age !!! ).
You just have to go back 40 years and you will be good lol
Not a fan of Islam , but who doesn’t want a woman who is whorish inside the house and ultra conservative outside ? Also those same brothers will kill her if she wants to leave you or cheat on you. You don’t have to be an entertaining clown to keep her around. Compare that to the West , where the woman can divorce-rape you because she is bored and wants Chad.
In Muslim societies, a minority of men get ALL the women while the rest are left to fuck goats or be incel 4 life. That’s why I prefer western monogamy.
Islam = the original creator of inceldom. Why do you guys think so many Arabs are so sexually frustrated?
Fitz !
that’s so true ! just like the male feminists who usually make these sexual assaults.
I think you are all repeating (((alt lite))) jewish propaganda that lied about Trump. Realistically, we don’t know shit about Islam except that their women don’t wear vagina costumes and have a lower notch count than our SJW feminists
Nah, they go to Germany & Sweden as refugees & “rape” blonde girls. No jail time either.
@AutomaticSlim
Damn right you are, look up “Mia” & “Kandel” the latest enrichment in Germany or Germanistan for insiders … Poor teenage girl (15y) got slaughtered to death in the middle of a busy shopping mall …
The dude will get minimal jail time if he even gets convicted. Authorities registered him as 15y old boy, even if he looks more like 30 …
Janek you don’t know what I know. I don’t have to be an Islamic scholar to know Islam is not a viable option for society. For one why would we want to legalize polygamy? If guys on this site are autistic creeps already why would that benefit anyone but Chad? Guys here bitch about their 80/20 cope and now you want to make it easier for “alpha” males to have monopolies over the incels? That will just lead to the barbaric societies seen in the Middle East. Legalizing polygamy is a big fail for society and I know of no modern society that allows it that isn’t a third world shithole. If you think the sexual market disparity is bad today imagine in Islamic countries!
Polygamy is a backwards and primitive system. Society is kept in check by keeping the sexual marketplace in check.
Half of what is wrong with the middle east is because of polygamy and not Islam, but Islam is still horrible. It is so horrible that the sins of polygamy hide behind it.
Dude like 4% of Islamic marriage are polygamous, only some very wealthy at the top. In the west the 80:20 principle is real. Some dudes have many gfs and wives difference is its serially not concurrently. The West has a far more uneven pussy distribution anyway.
The Muslims never register marriages, less than a third in most of Europe, so they dodge divorce-rape where ol’ whitey gets that BIG LEAGUE.
Europe’s easy to roll for them. They rolled all these red-pilled Middle-Easterners through war and marriage ratio tactics. These euro-cucks are placing out the red carpets, lying on their backs with their neck showing, not realizing this is the real world not some SJW game. Its like putting a pack of wolves on dodo island.
Just hope they don’t roll the USA when the leftists through demographic mastery giving them the elections start appointing gold star SJWs to office. These dudes are blue-pilled AF and may let them all come-in; don’t think they’ll wise-up. They still think rolling the Iranian government will create some new democratic utopia ala Korea . SJWs arefucking crazy Mofos whose logic only exends to MLK comparisons, or “right side of history” “is this racist” . They have no pragmatism or realism or sense of history pre-MLK. Its all BS.
What I mean is :
She will fuck a dozen men in secrets…..but under any circumstances if she decided that you are the one and you didn’t want her, she will declare a holy war on you.
Also her family members will believe her than you cause they don’t wanna seem a broken family in front the public.
And I understand the difficulties you guys have in the west because of feminism and the whorish behavior they promote. but somehow, there have to be good women left out there.
If your goal is only abt finding a good woman on the expanse on your lifestyle then that’s your choice. but for me noway i can accepts this 100% pc barbaric culture the Islam created.
GoM
Don’t see how she can ‘fuck a dozen men in secret’ when she is never allowed to be alone with any man apart from her husband and immediate family. You’ll need to explain how you think she could get away with it?
JOHN
Interesting story. I knew a Mexican chef/Lothario in Dubai who was screwing an Arab 2nd wife of his neighbor with her own apartment.
I told the guy he was crazy. Crazy.
But he had no fear.
I fucked few ones.
there are even clinics for stitching the pussy so that the hubby will feel good abt how his future wife is great as a virgin ( fake virgin ). And the divorce rate is currently 40% and rising. most of the cases married women wants another D.
so many of them is talking now abt how we need feminism and the women should be liberated. their role models are the Kardashian, amber rose ….etc.
I know exactly what happen man. the problem is you guys listen to the media and muslim men who tells you how great the arabic girls….while its even worse in the reality.
Take my upvote.
The author of this article lost me at “going along with Islam will be the right choice for readers of this website”.
Getting rid of sjw-scum AND islamo-retards is THE ONLY SANE choice we can make. No alternative.
For Poland this has been what we are doing and we are doing a great job. But for Western Europe and America that allow SJWs and refugees, the choice you have is Islam or SJWs. Islam at least allows you to be a man. Of course Catholicism is better, just look at Poland but you rejected Christianity. So SJWs or Islam. If you want neither, the move to Poland if we allow you.
Fuck your stone-age religion of Judeo-Cuckristianity! you can keep it, we have better alternatives
This may be a great idea for Poland. The eastern block countries could agree to take in Westerners whom pass a sort of idealogical test. They’d need to be conservative and religious and fit your culture. And educated and intelligent of course, so they could benefit your economy.
If Poland and other countries actively started recruiting these types, you may be able to brain drain the West. Not that I want that to happen.
Yea if it’s possible. If it’s not, you would have to chose the least evil.
Exactly.
Wake up ! western men.
How can you say they are “conservative on the outside but whorish on the inside”? Most Muslim girls (not all, but most) will get married as virgins and not cheat on their husbands or get divorced. How can you claim that a girl like this is not truly traditional, but is only traditional on the “outside” and is actually a whore “on the inside” (whatever that means)?
If a girl gets married as a virgin and is only with one man for her whole life, she is not a whore, regardless of her motivations. Even if her initial motivation for not being a slut is because she is afraid he father will kill her, after being married for many years, she will realize she is happier not being a slut, and she will be happy that she saved her virginity for marriage, and will have no desire to divorce her husband.
Whether or not a girl is a slut depends entirely on her actions, not her motivations or inner thoughts. If a girl only saves her virginity for marriage “because her father forced her to,” that is a good thing, not a bad thing. It doesn’t mean she is a “whore” on the inside. News flash: by that logic, all girls are “whores on the inside,” since pretty much all girls without a strong father figure end up being whores.
PS: I’m no Muslim, but if I had a virgin daughter and you fucked her, promising to marry her, and then just left when you got tired of her, I would want to kill you too.
Whether a girl is a whore or not depends on the men in her life and community. If men allow their daughters to be a whore, she is a whore, and if they don’t and make her go to church, she is chaste. Jews know by removing Christianity, they corrupt the women into whores. By corrupting women into whores they weaken the white society. It doesn’t matter if a woman is a whore or a virgin on the outside, if the men in her life are strong and value chastity, she will be chaste. If men in a woman’s life don’t value chastity or are weak, she’ll be a whore. A woman is a reflection of men around her and in her society.
OK. Exactly. I agree. But the commenter above me was trying to claim that a girl can be a virgin yet still be a whore “on the inside” (whatever that means). A girl who is a virgin and saves herself for marriage cannot be a whore, period. She can certainly be a bad person in other ways, but to say that Muslim women, even the ones who save their virginity for marriage, are “whores on the inside” is nonsensical and idiotic.
By that logic, the inverse can also be true (i.e. a girl being a whore “on the outside” and a virgin “on the inside), meaning that even though she has had many dicks in her, she is still a virgin “in spirit.” This argument is obviously nonsensical and would be laughed at by anyone here.
She can have sex with you and regret it later by telling her brothers and father to fucking force you to marry/ kill you.
sex and regret…sounds familiar ??? yes just like the feminist bitches !
There are many clinics for stitching the pussy so that they appear virgins to the future hubby !
I fucked a few ones…. and most of women hits on me in the middle east are the married ones…..they even beg for my D !
And finally…..good luck with the fake virgin bitch ! it will only enable her to marry you and then start whoring.
I even fucked one and after we finished, she went to pray ! lol
then came back for second turn.
the best one her is, she did atleast anal or phone sex …good luck man !!
Dude, just because you shagged a few indonesian birds in Jakarta (who are most certainly cum dumpsters for any white male, whether the girl wears a covering, prays or not) doesnt mean you get the flag for the muslim world.
I don’t think you understood me !
I live in the middle east for 25 years now….so I know exactly the reality of the arab society.
its far away than the media portray it as decent muslim girls.
GodOfMasculinity
“The women are very conservative on the outside ( sounds good huh ? ) and very WHORISH inside their homes.”
Perfect, that’s exactly how we want it.
Not (((Judeo-Christian))) values, just Christian values.
I wouldn’t make Sophie’s choice on this. I would rather die in guerrilla warfare than live under either regime.
Awesome.
Marighella’s most famous contribution to revolutionary literature was the Minimanual of the Urban Guerrilla, consisting of advice on how to disrupt and overthrow an authoritarian regime, aiming at revolution.
Some of you may think: “Islam seems like the real. Maybe I should become a fake convert to Islam. I’ll get all the exotic virgin pussy, maybe even four of them!”
Not so fast, young man. There are a few things you need to know, as per 2017.
Albeit all major religions deny they treat convert any different from how they treat people who were born into the religions – we all know people are people. No matter what they said. Judge a religion by its followers not by the its religious texts. There will be Muslims who will dislike you as a convert, albeit they won’t say it openly. As convert, you cannot remain a moderate. They would expect you to be a radical Muslim – meaning Islamic clothing, beard, spreading Islam (dawah). They would expect you to fast during Ramadan (exception may apply for genuine health reason). More radical Muslims may even expect you to get circumcised.(unless you suffer from hemophilia or equally serious condition). You may dream of marrying a virgin , 19-year old girl of Moroccan/Somali/Pakistani etc. origin. Sorry, buddy you are unlikely to get such girls. You are a convert. The parents of those girl do not know your past, your family well enough -thus they won’t trust you enough to give you their virgin daughter.
You have two choices.
1. A divorced Muslim woman (often with kids already). These women may still be attractive nevertheless and might treat you very well and give your children. Just get you priorities right.
2. A White western convert. (The one who rode the cock carousel but suddenly let guilty and “accepted Islam). For your own sake, avoid these like a plague. Leave these ones for the foreign brothers who will marry these to get western citizenship.
Having said all that, some convert do find spiritual enlightenment, peace and even a real family in Islam. Alternatively you will be one of the 70-75% of converts who leave Islam within two yours after their conversion. (Yes, you as a western convert living in the West, is unlikely to be hunted down for apostasy. That is the only upside of being a convert.)
Just make sure you make an informed choice before you jump into anything.
The problem with converting would be them wanting to cut my foreskin off. Not a problem for American men, who mostly only have half a penis anyway, but a big problem for white men in the rest of the world.
Ya us regular white guys over here really got the short end of the stick. To believe they chopped my dick off as a baby because some Jews told the hospital it was healthy smdh.
This article is ridiculous. It doesn’t come down to who will oppress you the least. It will come down to which group is easier to fight. What makes you think an Islamic Government would accept a white westerner? What the hell are you smoking? Look at Iran. They prosecute Christians, “Oh I’ll just convert”. Faking it obviously worked for the Sunni’s. Look at how ISIS treated westerners who wanted to fight for their cause. The women and men were used as sex slaves.
I’d take on purple haired man-women over a bunch of barbaric Muslims any day of the week.
Both are forms of social justice. I’d prefer justice for the individual
Also never underestimate the potential for two exoterically opposed systems to work together. If communism and capitalism are best friends why shouldn’t Sharia and blue-haired Sharon get along
Socialism and capitalism are way more more connected, historically, geographically and ideologically/philsophically, than Islam and social justice warriorism. Both socialism and liberalism are leftist ideologies with regards to the French parliament.
Sure, but time and again you find exoterically incompatible creeds getting along just fine not because of tolerance or anything but because there is some inner compatibility – in the case of socialism and capitalism that is often collectivism and a penchant for state monopolies. With Islam and SJWism its less clear but there’s a common desire for control, puritanism (the form rather than the content) and shutting down opposition
muslims when in the majority will form the governments. The governments will impose islamic rules which will not allow many things sjws like such as gay marriage.
no, but look what you have with the taliban: an absurd totalitarian form of islamic sharia rule, while the most zealous militants pick out pretty boys to dress up as catamites. It is highly contradictory
I don’t particularly care for either…so it’s resistance all the way
“No affirmative action quota is apt to take your job or promotion away from you and give it to a woman.” Yes, if you suck at your job. If you do it properly, no employer would be willing to give you up.
Fuck off with your overall uselessness posed as resistance.
Bullshit, many companies hire minorities and women over men who are way more qualified. “Fuck off with your overall uselessness posed as resistance.”…oh wow, the hypocrisy is so thick.
“Yes, if you suck at your job. If you do it properly, no employer would be willing to give you up.”
“SJW _and_proud”
You are predictably illiterate on this subject. I’m a brown guy and even I don’t bother denying the affirmative action stuff.
I personally know many men who were very competent and successful and then they were let go simply because they were white men and the higher ups demanded more diversity.
Scott Adams has a similar backstory. After he was fired, he created Dilbert.
Sometimes these quotas can hurt brown and Asian ppl in favor of blacks. Racism within racism.
These are some pretty basic things that I thought every normal adult knew. Do you even have a job? Any real world experience? Or are you one an unemployed dork assuming random things from mommy and daddy’s basement?
If I was forced to make this choice I’d lose it and just burn everything to the ground.
Dude, that is capitulation, and it would start a new dark age. Trust me, if everyone turned Muslim and Islam conquered than you can guarantee that the world would be in a constant state of war, just like the middle east. Maybe Higher IQ nations would do better with Islam, but it is still a stupid religion, and way over-the-top. The feminism we have today is completely un-Christian, all we have to do is turn more back to the culture we use to have. I like drinking and freedom too….what is the point to living if you can’t have shit like that.
Wes –
“all we have to do is turn more back to the culture we use to have.”
Alas, that is an impossible dream. It requires cooperation among a self-interested population. How would you go about it? Education? (re-education camps?) “If they would only JUST GET IT…” That’s what the left says too. How about dictatorship? “Do or die”.
This issue will end when women lose their agency, which will only happen when there aren’t an abundance of thirsty white knights and betas who support the current social order. Means a lot of men are going to have to die.
I do have to point out that the west bears a lot of responsibility of most of the wars in the middle east in modern times. Our elites created conditions in Iran for the islamic revolution, they took down Saddam in Iraq (and tried to take down Al Assad in Syria) which left a power vaccum for ISIS, they took down Gaddafi which turned Libya into a haven for mass immigration to Europe, they granted the creation of Israel etc. So it’s not quite fair to point to the middle east and say that’s the inevitable results of the region’s people in itself.
I’m not saying it would be utopia without western meddling but we can’t really know what it would have been on it’s own.
It’s an oil rich area that everyone wants to control (even the USSR back in the day).
The reason they attack these countries is liberal blue pilled optimism. Even the conservatives have it. All races and cultures are the same and everybody loves and strives for democracy and all dictatorships are evil and “right side of history” bull shit. All races are just as smart its all crap and thats why Blair thought Iraq would be the Next Japan! Obama and Hiliary were raised and lifted up in religiously blue-pilled ideologies and no doubt thought all cultures were equal and every ethnic and cultural group just as capable of forming liberal democracies and that Syria would be another South Korea. He saw the guys shouting “democracy” and that the reasonably ok leader Assad wasn’t elected and backed these ISIS dudes and thought it was another martin luther king freedom movement rather than just one asshole against another.
Obama, Hiliary and Blair and all other SJWs and Liberals are too blue-pilled on race and cultural relativism to actually make decent foreign policy. Bush was pretty blue-pilled also even though technically not a liberal I think he thought Afghanistan could be another Canada and Iraq another Germany . Fuck no they are genetically too different and they are genetically tribal people and the culture does not even at all suit democracy. Islam and democracy will never work other than in electing Islamists as in Tunisia before they scraped the result, Iraq, the limited elections in Bahrain, in Egypt, Palestine, and even Erdogan in Turkey and yes Pakistan may be the only place where they haven’t actually elected Islamists but those elections are so corrupt that they are hardly worth noting. I think over 90% ( although not measured ) of elections in islamic countries return Islamist governments. Elections guarantee liberalism only if the actual populace are liberal. No way America invaded for oil the amount that usa wasted financially on wars has trashed their country if being honest.
I would argue that the spreading democracy bit is mostly propaganda (it sounds good to the western masses, reaffirms what they’ve been told about how their way of life is the best and only way to live really etc).
You don’t spend trillions on invading and occupying the middle east for charity. It’s possible they underestimated how much it would end up costing and how hard it would be to subdue the locals and make them (and competing powers in the region) obedient.
Some reasons may be:
War always profitable for the owners of the military-industrial complex who can milk the state for endless cash. The citizien becomes indebted and they become rich selling war-equipment.
The U.S dollar is the reserve currency of the world. Oil, precious metals etc are traded in it.
But people like Saddam abd Gaddafi wanted to drop the dollar and sell their oil in their currencies instead. This was a threat to U.S hegemony (since they need the dollar to be reserve currency so they can keep printing large amounts of it and not have its value drop lile a rock like any other currency would) so they could not allow that.
Neither islamists or feminists are allies to masculinity/brotherhood.
Islam was brought forth by a group of five dude from mekkah. Masculinity and brotherhood is revered in this side of the world.
You can always identify a sneaky snake because he’ll try to reduce things to a false dichotomy.
Actually yes, you cannot apply binary switches to this kind of trouble. And usually when it happens both presented solution leads to corruptions. Horned fucker
Because bowing down and taking it in the ass from one enemy is more favorable than taking it in the ass from the other one because. . .?
Fuck off Habib. Or shall I say fuck goats?
Fitzy, monogamy is novel, selfish and unrealistic. I would most likely be monogamous. But he who have the (say, financial) capability should take more wives to protect her from disgrace (fucking around, sorry)
And then leave men incel to go fuck goats or young boys because they have no facial hair.
No reason for these systems. If you want to protect women then give every man a chance to do so. No reason in giving one man an unfair advantage in this regard. It never helps society. Show me a polygamous society that isn’t a third world shithole?
Third world lol, then tell me any monogamous society that managed to curb whoredom. Indeed, any kind of system that prevented its populace from successfully passing down their gene will fuck itself in the arse. The way I see it, we all just fucking it all up, you by thingking that love is divine or something and us by overpricing marriage. As long as there is more women than men, some men must take more than one
The correct answer is, Neither. Both are wrong.
I choose the Catholicism of the High Middle Ages. Organic Catholic society, compliant women taught by the Church to fulfill their roles as wife and mother, or nun, only work 180 days a year (have to celebrate the Saint’s days for the rest), totally patriarchic.
I am glad to see an article like this written, but I am not surprised at all the comments. This reminds me of the time on the Roosh V Forum that everybody shit on me because I dared to say that Muslims do a better job keeping their women in line than Westerners. I got shit on, accused of supporting honor killings, accused of being a secret Muslim troll, and a few people even came out in defense of the poor “victim” Muslim women being oppressed by those barbaric “true misogynist” Muslim men.
On the Roosh V. Forum.
I shit you not.
Around here, it seems like “Islam is pure evil” is the only acceptable point of view. Even pointing out the good things about Islam — i.e. things you would think people on ROK would agree with (how they don’t allow their women to be sluts, etc.) — will be met with name-calling, accusations of being a secret Muslim, and even leftist talking points about how Muslims are misogynists and oppress their women (“Muslim men are the REAL misogynists,” etc.).
1950s White Patriarchy offered all the social control of Islam without the ignorance, brutality, and economic helplessness.
To advocate Shariah Law instead of a return to White Patriarchy is traitorous sedition, and that’s putting it nicely.
1950s white patriarchy wasn’t sustainable. You had the 1968 cultural revolution less than a decade later.
We had perhaps the last remants of patriarchy left in the 1950s (and that is being quite generous, white patriarchy defined more strictly probably died way before then).
“1950s white patriarchy wasn’t sustainable. You had the 1968 cultural revolution less than a decade later.
We had perhaps the last remants of patriarchy left in the 1950s (and that is being quite generous, white patriarchy defined more strictly probably died way before then)”
This, 1000 times over.
Too many guys on there think the 1950s were the ideal time for patriarchy. Not true. There is a reason the “cultural revolution” happened less than a decade later. True patriarchy died out way before the 1950s. I would say 19th Century Victorian England, 19th Century American society, and European society in general throughout the middle ages are all way better examples of true patriarchy than the 1950s.
1950s was perfectly sustainable… the only problem is America was run by dumb zionist Israel worshiping Evangelical cucks and had taken boat loads of smart cultural marxist Jewish refugees, like the (((Frankfurt School))) and (((Hollywood))). If Americans were antisemtic like Muslims, and not soft, there would have been no cultural revolution. As RoK pointed out, most of the (((feminist))) leaders of the cultural revolution were jewish, so were community organizers like (((Saul Alinksy))). As long as you are Red Pilled on JQ, and jews desire to push marxism on a host population to weaken it so they don’t get triggered from their trauma of persecution, you are good. We Polish have a low jewish population and don’t have the same cultural marxist problem you Americans have. We are heading more towards white sharia in Poland, and it’s better, but not fast enough as there are too many THOTs. We need to ban Instagram in Poland.
Whites are a cucked race and that is why they are declining and will be destroyed. I am blackpilled like Roosh on the subject of white civilization.
Remember the cringeworthy white knighting from alt-bugmen a few weeks ago during the tradthot holocaust? All that talk of being “chad” and “restoring western civilization”. And the faggots can’t even control their women from being two-faced whores. “Please don’t take away my e-waifu!” Pathetic.
This is “three generations of wealth rule” at play. This is not the formidable early generation that accomplishes. This is the later generation that squanders what it has been bestowed.
You sound like a complete fool with intense jealousy and hatred of White people. You must be another one of the “where da white wimminz at” readers, angry at the world for denying you that blonde princess that you “deserve”.
A small handful of BoomerCucks like to call themselves alt-right while retaining all of their White Knightery, but they are no more right wing than you are. Just impostors, posers, and assorted losers desperately seeking a place to fit in.
John really, white women are among the easiest, not that I have but easy because they initialize contact. We may have been viewed as novelty item or exotic fuck or something but there,
walk the walk buddy! live in a Shariah enforced Muslim dominated country. why dont you move to the places refugees are running away from?
David Brown sit on my coc you muslim loving punk. Obviously this guy has a tiny wenis and loves to bang boys how they do in Afghanistan. Looser author.
Are you homosexual then? So the afghan case you mention are only a case of pedophilliac to you?
Man, a couple of years ago I was entertaining the same idea. “Better Islam than SJWism, at least Islam is traditional, patriarchal and it allows for a healthier social order than liberal degeneracy.” Well, I’ve let this idea behind for several reasons.
– Islam isn’t something pure and immaculate. No Arab is immaculate actually, they don’t even use toilet paper LOL. Nah, seriously, Islam in Europe tends to mix with “intersectional” Leftism, i.e. “muh poor oppressed minority fuck whitey kill whitey!!” Islam won’t destroy antiracism. To the contrary, Arab women may have it much better than submitted Whites.
– Islam isn’t something abstract. It is, mostly, a tool of the degenerate and hostile invaders from Maghreb. These people have a two digits IQ, they hate Europe and Europeans, they enjoy assaulting European men and raping females. Islam per se can be great if it remains into worthy hands (check Shia Islam or Sufi Islam) but Sunni, Wahhabi or Salafi Islam is an untermensch’s tool.
– I love pig. My ancestors have always bred and cooked pork meat. Same thing for alcohol. I will never let stupid fucks who believe in djinns (demons in Islam) and “wah wah muh racism muh victim of whites” tell me what I can eat or drink. Fuck them.
– Whites spent centuries struggling against the dark-skinned barbarians who tried to impose Islam on Europe. Everything beautiful inside Islam comes from enslaved Aryans who built it. The Turkish empire used European slaves as architects, engineers, even elite soldiers.
– Islam = Arabs, corruption, two-digits IQs, drinking camel piss, dirt everywhere, a culture of haggling, cheating, corruption, and confusing masculinity with being violent and loud. Fucking barbarians.
Whites have never needed Islam and will never need it.
André du Pôle
here, here.
Thought leader on ROK.
Aryan? Iran maybe.
And here I thought that you are the barbarian for using paper to clean shits off your arse.
I was thinking that your comment may have some merit, but well, iq and shitZ, I LovE PiigSS etc
Fuck this article. Give me neither. But given the choice, SJW>Sharia law.
When push comes to shove, a SJW govt wont stand a chance In hell of survival…….good, it can also die a violent ignomious death too
There is logic to this idea, not new, that Sharia has aspects that keep female hypergamy in check. Family, community, solidarity, discipline (well, for the most part) all play a roll. But when the theology is practiced by low IQ idiots (but I repeat myself) you get ISIS, and the whatever-istans. There’s some hellish downsides too, like how people in Pakistan abuse blasphemy laws and accuse their rivals, leading to their imprisonment or death. And what about the origins and founder – a child rapist pedophile – not simply a dude who preferred “barely legal”?
For the time-being, the luxuries, abundance and freedoms our degenerate society allows will entice people to more SJW until the society itself completely collapses. Sharia might fill the vacuum, but it won’t be applied a priori to fix her ills.
Actually, I’m pretty sure technically Mohammed didn’t fuck his wife until she had gone through puberty, and it was not uncommon in that time for girls to get married off as children, and the husband wouldn’t fuck her until she was physically able to get pregnant. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t even live together until the girl was ready to get pregnant. I’m not sure the details of Mohammed’s life, but this was common practice back then in the Middle East, as far as I know.
Mohammed fucked his wife when she was 9.
Married at 9, consummated at 14. Typical age for women at that time pretty much everywhere. This logat guy is awesome lol
Muslims represent the ethnic other. That’s the reason I oppose their mass immigration, not because I dislike Islam more than Christianity. I don’t want mass immigration of Christians from Africa either.
These monotheistic faiths like Islam and Christianity are actually quite similar in their theoretical form. It’s just that one has been westernized (which means liberalised, just look at new LGBT churches etc) and the other has kept more of its middle eastern origin.
I understand what the author means. The ideology itself may very well be a lot better than SJW-bullshit. if I was middle eastern and actually believed in monotheism, Islam would make a lot of sense. But an agnostic european can’t easily forget that he doesn’t believe in it just to get the social benefits…
Well given the no-choice-at-all choice of eating a shit sandwich and a shit and menstrual discharge sandwich, and being male, I’d have to choose the shit sandwich of Sharia.
But obviously it’s not purely binary, and since acquiescing to either of the above offerings would make one a total spineless bitch, the only acceptable response is fuck ’em all.
All these comments bashing Islam, and I haven’t heard a single coherent argument. I’m not defending or bashing Islam, but from a totally neutral point of view, all the people bashing Islam have not made a coherent argument. All they have done is name-calling (“Islam is shit,” Muslims are dirty barbarian savages,” etc.), and making non-sensical untrue arguments (i.e. claiming Muslims are SJWs who just hate whitey and support leftist victim ideology). Sure, there might be some Muslims living in the West who fall for the leftist victim narrative, but I doubt Muslims in Muslim-majority countries are spending their time thinking about how they are being “oppressed” by Whitey.
For fuck’s sake, Christians buy into feminism and open-borders nonsense way more than Muslims do.
Also,
Yea, its like they lose the ability to think objectively. The article actually makes some good points, yet people just want to pout their own superiority, fornicate, have zero self control & discipline, and talk about their “experiences” with non religious arab women
Have any of you met actual religious muslim women or men? They are not supposed to get personal with members of the opposite gender outside of family/spouse etc
do a little search on Islam and all sorts of interesting factoids pop-up. checkout acts17apologetics on youtube if youre too fucking lazy.
If I really have to judge then yes, westerner are the donkey of satan with their concept of freedom. But there’s still people like you guys here on rok who are more resistant
As a saddened French observer of my country’s decline, I know the obvious answer : sharia.
While radical Islam is a piece of crap, the reason it sticks so hard among French migrants is that the alternative they are offered is social justice, not European manlyhood. As long as SJW have a prominent public chair, the radical speech of sharia-hate-preachers will resonnate among the heart of young men of muslim heritage.
This is a bit shocking but I caught myself asking the same question. And that was after Peter Hitchens once famously said in regards to ISIS: “They hate our way of living. And frankly, I do too”.
Whites like their degeneracy. They would never embrace any belief system that demands self-control.
I dislike Islam. But I suspect even if Islam was perfect, it would be rejected here because ROK is largely a bunch of degenerate whites LARPing as traditional men. They are presently pissing away their civilization because they enjoy the fornication so much.
Don’t paint all ROK readers with the same brush. There are certainly a lot of guys who are like that (“Marriage is stupid. I will stay single all my life, fuck sluts, and never have kids. I don’t care if my bloodline dies with me.”), but there are certainly guys who actually want to find a traditional woman and live a virtuous life.
Now, when it comes to Islam, yes, they are our enemies, but that doesn’t mean that everything about them is bad.
@ Matt, stop cucking for Islam. I have lived in a Muslim country, even have Muslim friends, they’re S.E. Asians and not from the Middle East, and are just good people who happened to be born into it, so I’m not blind to the mantra, “All Muslims are bad.” Having said that, I have met a lot of Saudi’s and every single one of those assholes can die and I won’t shed a single tear.
Now that I established my non bias, let’s just state for the record that any religion that has it’s basis in world domination via violence and bloodshed can get fucked. That goes for the Jews too. While I’m not Christian at least I can look at Christianity as a religion that’s based in compassion. For all the negatives, all the corrupt Priests, all the give-me-money churches, it’s roots are something that I can, and will, stand by.
So fuck off with your, “Islam ain’t bad,” bullshit, you are being deliberately ignorant about what they teach.
Yes asdasda, “being born in to it” yeah, so sad. Not even the tip of their butthair is islamic.
Why can’t we have both, I’ve been married nearly all my adult life (5 children with 2 wives so far, one virtuous, 1 not so) and get to bang loads of young slutty hookers on the side.
Neo. True, you gentlemen better not reward the sluts with any kind of sexual attention. You are the one who can show your average man how it’s done (because after redpill, every woman will make an orbit around you)
RoK articles getting pretty cringey.
Roosh doesn’t want any mean guys “spewing their filth” anymore. I would expect a lot more in this direction. A kinder, gentler red pill where cucking on the difficult stuff is preferable to raising the dreaded Jay Queue.
That’s because the Jay Que is pure bullshit. If you think George Soros and Mark Zuckerberg are on the same boat with some Israeli living in Western Jerusalem , you are full of shit. Roosh is smart and you’re not.
Also keep raising the JQ and scare the normies away before they even put a foot in the door , because the war against the leftist propaganda machine is won by 100 people talking about the JQ all day in some forum.
Clone Charles Martell?
Any examples of Muslim/Sharia run countries that aren’t shit holes?
Dubai and the rest of the UAE. Although these are not Sharia. Albania is sort of First World.
wtf
I choose neither.
Man fuck this pseudo black pill garbage. If you guys want to truly lay down and rot at least do so with your face up and not your ass up. This shit is getting sad.
P.s. the reason your dating prospects in the West are slim is because you are either ugly, short, bald, fat, skinny, or all of the above. Chad doesn’t have to go to SEA or EE for prime pussy
FITZ
We don’t leave the US for pussy. There are other reasons unknown to somebody who probably did not spend a great deal of time outside Ohio:
1) It is generally safer for a low-income white male in other countries.
2) Troublesome minorities are stuck in their barrios, Hoods or the New York Lower East side.
3) If your problem is Semites, they ain’t around. A few in Eastern Europe, not many.
4) Affordable.
5) None of the boring media shit.
6) Say what you want to other Western men.
7) No white trash.
Its “elitist”, Fitz. By leaving the US you are getting away from its problems, its media, its politics, blah blah.
Michael I was referring to the articles about what to do when the dating market is what it is now. I don’t knock people for moving for opportunity but uprooting yourself just to get laid is pathetic. The concept of poosy paradise is a pipe dream. If you can’t get laid in your own country for free, you can’t do it anywhere. American girls are easy. Facts. Tinder is basically the sex personals section but with mandatory pictures and more clever innuendo. But it is socially acceptable here for people to just meet to get an orgasm and nothing more. Men complaining about not finding women are men who offer nothing.
As far as finding your “feminine good girls” that so many manosphere writers jizz over, they do exist. They aren’t easy and being a man who offers nothing also leads nowhere. So what you have is guys who voluntarily live like losers start to complain that sex is either too easy to get (for other people) and simultaneously hard to get (for them). They wouldn’t complain about American sluts if said sluts blew them and they wouldn’t complain about a lack of good girls if they could convince one to marry them. But many men who post here have neither the ability to get sluts to sleep with them nor to get nice feminine conservatives to pay them any attention.
Essentially you have a ton of fat fedora basement dwellers whose persona is that of “shitlord” complaining that men have it shitty. They then think it must be the country’s fault they can’t find a girl. All these shit excuses and they romanticize Eastern nations because the West can’t get their dick wet. I know plenty of men married to good girls. It isn’t necessary to uproot. It is necessary to not be a loser.
Fitz,
Chad does if he’s 50+ ………..
JOHN
You see things from the POV of a guy who probably enjoyed a great standard of living in the Thatcher era (At 62 you would have late 20’s and early 30’s during the height of it).
Those of us born in the 70’s who came of age in the 90’s really never lived in a West that was any great shakes.
So if young guys can get a decent job in Asia it is not a bad thing to just leave the West when they are 22 or 24.
Getting sex is not the only reason.
MM
I moved to Asia mainly for the good weather, something you already have in the USA, but we don’t have in the UK.
If you are a ruthless individual lacking a moral compass Islam is great, you get some clout and many wives. You will do better than in a SJW dictatorship.
If you’re not ruthless you’re fucked either way. In Islam you’d be a peon and never see a tit, let alone get any bangs. Probably marginally better in SJW world.
What? Talk about moral compass in a sentence and then the tit in the next. Women is important man, but she doesn’t stand next to morality
You’d like Houellebecq”s “Submission”. Yes, a soft sharia would have its good points.
You are all welcome to utilize the sharia law regarding divorce.
One way elevator trips for the queers…..
“As of 2017, adopting Islam in the future is the more common sense course of action.”
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Hell, it’s looking more and more like the ONLY common sense course of action.
What are you expecting, one of the first thing that will happen to you after accepting islam is that you will be tested. Anyway you are welcomed, but i’m not saying your life will be full of western style divine compassion. This religion is for normal human who wish to come back to and maintain fitrah (origin and purpose) of oneself in life.
What’s up with these articles that seem to “understand” Islam culture lately? Shit needs to stop. We get SJW is miserable, but don’t even bring up Islam and sharia as a viable life choice. Disgusting.
I’ll take choice number 3, fighting to the death.
Or number 4, go somewhere and build the fuck anything you want there, nation and all. Plenty of space left on earth
If they increase at 25% per generation , and actually they increase over 50% per generation, then they will increase by over 100 times in 21 generations. They don’t need 10,000% growth to be majority they need just to increase ten fold from current numbers to reach 300 million which is a majority, or with just increasing by 50% every generation so with no migration then need under 6 generations to 300 million in Europe which with average birth at age say 25 years at 6 generations 150 years. The countries where they approach majority will suffer “white flights” such as sweden and france and be ceded much sooner than we think even within our lifetimes. Muslims don’t assimilate.
When in majority will they vote Islamist like everywhere else?
Europe is Junk stock. If you can leave now do since your posessions still have value. In the rush, there will be a crush. Too cucked to even turn back boats.
Lmao, of course living in an Islamic society would be preferable to one run by Cultural Marxism. Any man who gets triggered by this principle has likely been brainwashed by feminism and neoconservativism.
Conforming to Islam is very much like putting on a mask, with the expectation that you could remove it one day. Many Eastern European countries that were previously under the yoke of the Ottoman Empire (Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia) are now some of the most anti-Islamic nations, and Hungary in particular offers refreshing resistance against the (((globalist))) agenda.
Cultural Marxism, on the other hand, is akin to living in George Orwell’s 1984. Any real man would have to either risk arrest and incarceration for various consent laws and thoughtcrimes, or he will have to deny his biology and brutally subjugate himself to become an androgynous clone. Those who resisted would be powerless as their nations rotted away, along with all of its citizens, turning them all into mixed-race androgynous zombies who knew nothing but mass culture.
Islamization can be reversed.
The physical destruction of a people can’t.
Islam or SJW? Neither, thanks. I’ll go out taking out both…humankind isn’t worth saving if this is the choice…it’s like be a Nazi or be a Communist, they’re BOTH the same, and yes, they’re ALL collectivist bankrupt philosophies with no future except for the final destruction of the world.
Well, Islam might be preferable to a man than living in cultural marxist hell. However, that’s a false dichotomy. Besides, even if the invading hordes were Buddhist, they are still ugly, low IQ retards from the crapholes of the world.
Much better solution: nuke Europe’s major cities, shut down all transportation and water/gas infrastructure through sabotage, and then massacre the disorganized masses of third world invaders and their left wing enablers. There’s more than enough of us to do that. Nuking the city centers first both eliminates the majority of the invaders, and also disables Israel’s Samson option for blackmailing western governments.
jbwilson
More than enough of “us”. You’ll die in Germany? Judging by your name you’re an Anglo anyhow. I sure wouldn’t and I’m German-American. Not our concern.
“Nukes”
Either you are mad or you’re another Gen Y teenage poster born in 1997 when the last war broke out in former Yugoslavia and of course you are comfortable in your Mum’s house where you have lived all your 19 or 20 years and your biggest fear is that she will walk into your bedroom when you are masturbating to porn.
I mean it is sad about Western Europe and North America is fortunate about its Oceans to make it more difficult to be invaded but to be honest Europe is really now our problem.
As for nuking the Lefties, they set off a bomb in their own cities literally. Why should any American liberate Germany?
DUBAI Ain’t Bad
1) Guys don’t talk shit much because they figure that a fight is going to be a fight to the death.
2) Nobody wants to mess around with girls because they figure her family will kill them.
3) There are loads of prostitutes in Dubai. If a woman is standing outside a room, she is a hooker. Lot’s of Arab women are hookers. Being a hooker is not really punishable by death in Dubai. Unless you are married. Then your husband might kill you.
4) There is better use of the windfall from oil.
5) Crime is lower. Most organized crime is actually Russian.
6) You cannot drink alcohol in the road but if you want to get completed drunk in a hotel or your house nobody cares.
7) Hashish and ghat (An amphetamine) are tolerated.
8) Hard drugs and hard drug smugglers end up in jail. Okay, no desperate junkies. Boo hoo.
9) No fucking in public. Okay. You can have all the orgies you want behind closed doors. I have.
10) Street crime is rare in Dubai.
11) The white people in Missouri are shit-poor and their town is falling apart and not Dubai or Qatar. So who is more intelligent.
I’d live in Dubai before Detroit. I’d live in Dubai before Phoenix. So that is my opinion.
Dubai’s an open city. they allow all sorts of shit to attract money.
loga
…Yeah and it was much better than Detroit. Cleaner, safer, people making money etc.
Now don’t get me wrong as I am not sure the South Asian workers enjoyed it. But most of us Westerners and the prostitutes from China and Russia had a grand old time. Dubai was a beautiful city on a creek.
Now your average city in the US interior is pretty bleak. Long grey winters and hot summers and two-story brick down towns half-deserted now that Wal-Mart has taken over. Afro-Saxons prance about like Eminem in sleeveless muscle shirts and Mud Shark women swarm like ants around a black Alpha male.
There are opoid abusers in old rundown houses and beefy cops with weightlifter torsos glowering from cruising cars through the slushy streets.
Entertainment is a Sports Bar filled with stools with tears in the seats and a television above the bar and cheap beer Specials on Thursdays.
The entire scene is just not very attractive.
Also.
In Dubai there is no J Q. I don’t know why, but the Arabs are holding their own.
So if I had to choose between living in Dubai and living in Southern Indian or Missouri it would be Dubai.
you just pretty much repeated what I said.
I believe you, Dubai is surely a nice place to live atm. I’m cool with that. But once the oil of the middle-east is pumped dry, it will all crumble and sink beneath the sand. I’m cool with that too.
Dubai was nothing a few years ago, and now it’s flourishing, why do you think that is?
CONQUISTADOR
Ese, mi vato locos forever.
Dubai was booming metropolis as early as 1980 and by 1999 when I went there it had the biggest airport and tallest skyscraper in the world.
The Middle East is not a bunch of camels and sand. They have it better than you do in your desert city, vato.
But it has no economic fundamentals: they need foreign labour and experts, they don’t have a profitable industry (some subsidiesed shit maybe, that can’t be subsidiesed anymore once the oil ran dry), they suck at science and research etc. So now it’s empty skyscrapers (whats called a construction industry bubble, as it has no real return on investment) and tomorrow it will be sand, camels and tents again.
neither! fuck islam and social justice! nuff said!
Think Islam is a good thing? check it out:
It’s going to be fun talking with you. I did enjoy talking about religion with christians. They are curious as hell lol
you’re obviously a sympathizer/dhimmi or Muslim. yes keep denying and spreading your lies. Takkiya.
Deny what lol, did i utter even a sentence of denial. No one here, religious or atheist, likes to bark.
Listened to some, just clickbait. Course muslims wanted domination, as did the christians:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia#Death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Milvian_Bridge
need to research more, instead of relying on ‘gotcha’ headlines and strawman arguments
believe what you want to believe. Statistically/historically Islam has been the cause of much misery and suffering.
As has Christian empires, Chinese empires, Roman empires, Persian empires, Central Asian empires, Mongolian empires, and the list goes on…
Thats what empires do, its not unique to anyone in particular
This is a false dichotomy. We don’t need to choose between one or the other, we must reject both as corruption and decadence (SJW), and as non-white barbarism (Islam).
You are mistaken. Muslims have the same problem as the west, only delayed by several generations thanks to the good work of ulama in educating the youth.
It’s odd to have to say it again and again to christians but here “satan forces is pervasive and they leave no one alone”.
Are you that desperate? Shitria or SJW? That’s your choice? Fight against both.
SJW society is marginally better, not because it’s not fucked up on many more different levels, but a sharia society only seems better for stable families.
However sharia will destroy modern science, modern technology, create and foster inbreeding, have honor killing of women explode and will steer any society firmly back to the middle ages.
At least in a SJW society all it takes is a bunch of shitlords to unite and the cardhouse topples. You are not back in the year 1000 trying to rebuild modern civilization.
BobbyBrownMan, wrong Mohammed fucked his wife at age 9/10.
“Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents’ home until the age of nine, or ten according to Ibn Hisham,[11] when the marriage was consummated with Muhammad, then 53, in Medina” –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha
Oh this one, oke logat are you Christian from indo. The best way to answer your question is to go to a mosque and ask audience with the imam. Wikipedia is just compilation of information from *various* source. It’s like you take what you like and I take what i like. One last thing, you cant procreate if the women aren’t yet matured sexually, hence in my religion it is forbidden.
lmao! imams are liars just like the rest of you!
why are Muslim majority countries not taking in refugees? 🙂
Most of the refugees are in Muslim countries?! How do you not know this? Bro, its fine to have a certain view on things, but you need to back it up with evidence
There are 3 main Muslim majority countries that take in refugees – Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon. Turkey is the best, Lebanon is the worst. Other Muslim countries should be doing way more, but many of their governments are garbage – im sure this will change in the coming decades.
But here is something to get you started: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/opinion/turkey-syrian-refugees.html
you’re an idiot obviously. there are places like Malaysia and Indonesia. WHy arent they taking in these refugees? simply becoz they wont.
Logat you green boy, i would love to have them at my side. But government and the people are different organism. Terrorism and immigrant woes, even if it’s true, are more disadvantageous to muslim than it is to westerner.
greenboy?? I’ll just refer to as lying cuck.
That’s what I think will happen – at some point I think men in the most pozzed places of Europe will just say screw it and convert to Islam – truly, or falsely. Eventually the fake converts will get on with the program and their progeny won’t be fakes. Christians will run to Poland or some other more christian country.
My theory is that in a few years we will start seeing neo-nazi and such types converting to Islam en masse, because Islam supports most of their goals (like offing Jews). Hitler himself stated that he wished Germans were Mohammedans instead, because its a warrior religion.
They will probably frown at the racial egalitarianism of a universal religion, but Islam has arranged marriages so they might just, once they become patriarchs, prohibit their children form marrying “impure races” or something.
NEITHER, period!
I would agree but I’ve known enough Muslim women raised in the West to realize that when they have a choice between being SJW and Islamic, they choose SJW every time. I would say that under the psychological assault that whites have been under, Muslims would never do as well.
Right now all of the white girls I knew in highschool are married to their one and onlies.
That’s pretty good, and something that gives me hope.
Muslims are lower than Christians and when they face the assault they will not fare as well as we have.
Christians have to be the ones to stop this or everyone is going down…Muslims included.
As much as I dislike Muslims, they are better liberals, at least Muslims know how to handle women.
However, an ideal society would have no religion in it.