How Patriarchy Evolves Into Matriarchy

It seems that there is a large number of self proclaimed feminists out there (particularly in the West) who hold the belief that men are actively, consciously preventing them from gaining any power in the world, and scheming, behind the scenes, to perpetuate the patriarchy that we’ve created.

As an ROK reader, you likely know that this is entirely false.

For the sake of clarity, however, I would like to explain just how patriarchy arises over time, and how it eventually evolves into a matriarchy. I will be looking to disciplines such as anthropology, history, and evolutionary biology, to make my case, rather than looking inside to the, oh-so-common cited “muh feels.”

The Tribal Stage

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Rather than trying to look at multiple civilizations and their evolution, which I believe has its merits, but would confuse the matter, let us look at how anthropologists think that ancient cities might have evolved over time.

As we all know, most civilizations started from a mere tribe—a collection of maybe 50 or so men, women, and children. This tribe would likely exist in a very dangerous environment, something which SJW’s (and even us, to an extent) cannot begin to comprehend today.

I cannot overemphasize the danger that surrounded humanity for the vast majority of history; at any given moment, you may be killed by a lion, disease, a food shortage, or an enemy tribe may invade your little village and slaughter you all. So, faced with such dire consequences, what do you think happened? A PC-culture where feelings are more important than the fact that there’s an enemy tribe 100 yards away that could kill you all at any time?

Fuck, no. I’ll tell you what happened: the birth of patriarchy.

The Birth Of Patriarchy

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Patriarchy evolved as a culture and political structure, due to its sheer effectiveness. When you’re surrounded by a massive amount of danger, what do you think your tribe’s priority will be? Protect the women. If you don’t have any women, you can’t reproduce, and your tribe will die off. It’s that simple.

You can have just 3-4 men, but as long as you have 40-50 women, you’ll be able to live on as a tribe. But if you only have 3-4 women? It doesn’t matter how many men you have, you can only give birth to 4 babies a year (2 of which will likely die). Thus, patriarchy, contrary to modern belief, did not evolve to oppress women, but to protect women.

Now, of course, some modern day feminazi may say “WE DON’T NEED YOUR PROTECTION!” to which I would reply, no shit.

Modern day women don’t need our protection, because we have daddy government, a system that MEN built, doing that for them. They don’t need our protection, because we’ve busted our asses making a relatively stable civilization, which, ironically enough, they’re threatening by creating a culture that values feelings more than facts.

Regardless, the men were tasked with the life-threatening work, because they understood that they were expendable, while women were not. The men were out hunting birds, deer, buffalo, gazelles, and whatever the fuck else they could find depending on their geographical location.

This is how the masculine virtues evolved—men needed to be able to rely on one another, so over time, a culture that praised honor, reliability, strength, courage, and loyalty, developed.

A lot of these noble men died hunting and in battle, but that was better than any of the women dying. The women were tasked with staying at the “home base,” or their small village nearby, and doing less dangerous tasks, such as picking berries, tending to the children, and sewing clothing for the warriors.

Cultural Evolution

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I really want to hammer home the fact that patriarchy is MUCH more than a “political system,” as most people might think. It’s an economic system, a culture, it’s a way of life.

And what’s important to realize, is that this “way of life,” that a smaller tribe of 50 people might have, will be passed down generation to generation, because the older men understand that this is how you preserve the tribe: by preserving patriarchy.

To emphasize the fact that patriarchy is a culture, let me give you an example. Let us say that all of the men and women are home, around a fire, eating dinner. One of the warriors, a man who the other men respect greatly, speaks up: “A friend from the tribe to the south has told me that the northern tribes are planning an attack.”

What do you think would happen nowadays if somebody brought up bad news at the work place lunch table, or at a corporate dinner? The women in the group, and the chodes of the group, would likely use all manner of social pressure to get him to shut the fuck up.

They’d ignore him, they’d berate him, they’d tell him to stop being so negative, or they’d just spout a delusional: “Oh, we’ll be fine! So anyways, yeah—Jenny we should go grab drinks after this! I heard that Icon has a great selection of cosmos!” This is because we have a “matriarchal culture,” but more on this later.

If a woman, in our previous tribal example, had said: “Oh the tribe from the north is fine, don’t worry about them! Why are you ruining the vibe?” or some other silly nonsense, what do you think would have happened? Definitely not what would happen today.

The men in the group would likely tell her to shut the fuck up, because this is a matter that concerns all of their safety and it needs to be discussed. This is the power of a patriarchal culture. In fact, if the alpha male warrior of the group brought up a serious concern such as this, the women would likely not even say anything, because they would have known it isn’t their job to decide on matters of war and alliances.

So, this culture of patriarchy, that values facts more than feelings (although it obviously still values feelings, it isn’t completely heartless), would be passed down through the generations. Over time, the tribe would grow. Alliances would take place, and sooner or later, we start to have a large village, or even a town.

The Large Village Stage

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Now, due to the efficiency of patriarchy, we have a village that is comprised of 2,000 people. Because of patriarchy, there is ample food, shelter, and supplies.

Over time, the men started to realize that they don’t all need to hunt. They can just task the best hunters with hunting, and they’ll have more than enough food for everyone. And maybe some of the men are really great at making weapons, whether from rock, bronze, or iron, so they’re tasked with making weapons to supply the warriors with a means to protect the village and hunt for food.

In other words, what happens is that the men start to specialize in more “rough” and dangerous jobs: blacksmiths, leather tanners, hunters, warriors, animal tamers, and the like. Women, however, are still kept safe: the general culture of patriarchy pervades. Women are still tasked with cooking, sewing, and tending to the children. That is, after all, the job designation that allowed this large village to flourish.

There are still occasional bouts of violence within the village. Maybe a marauding band of barbarians occasionally finds the village, and the men need to defend it. It doesn’t have to happen that often, maybe once every decade or so, in order to keep patriarchy in place.

The problems start to happen when the large village becomes TOO affluent, and eventually starts to evolve into a series of large villages, or a small “nation,” so to speak.

The Small Nation Stage

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This is when, again, due to the effectiveness of patriarchy, we start to see the emergence of the third component of patriarchy: the economic structure. As the large village grows more and more, it starts either spreading out to various outposts strategically located near water or herds of prey, and it starts even making alliances with various other tribes of small villages.

Soon, a bartering system emerges—gold and other precious metals are accepted as currency, but there isn’t an official currency…yet. The culture of patriarchy starts to weaken in the main village that we’ve been following, which at this point has evolved into a town.

Our nation now consists of roughly 30,000 people, and our main town is comprised of 10,000. As society has shown us over the years, the town will be the first to go. Why? Well, it’s simple—the town isn’t surrounded by danger. It’s the epicenter of trade, and it’s surrounded by various outposts and villages that will fend off invaders far before the town folk have to do anything. Thus, due to this newfound security, men start specializing even further. They become bankers, traders, merchants; some create boats, some are experts with wood, or with making jewelry.

Patriarchy still reigns supreme, but it’s starting to weaken—the women in the town are starting to realize that there’s very little danger surrounding them, but interestingly enough, they don’t even care. They’ve been fine with the old system for their whole lives, because their fathers were good to them, and they were never given the “rebellious spirit” that so many women have today.

But…one day the town drunk has a young girl. Over the years, the men in the town do what they can to try to stop him from hurting her, but he’s an asshole and they can’t do much about it. Over time, more and more drunks and degenerates start to appear, mainly from the upper class, because not everyone is required to work. Most people are, but a few wealthy merchants and bankers can afford to have their children remain idle.

This is crucial to remember: the upper class is almost always indicative of where the middle class will be in several decades, and the middle class is always indicative of where the lower class will be in several decades.

Due to more and more absentee fathers and drunks (which again, arises out of too much safety), we have a bunch of young girls being raised that have severe anger towards their fathers (rightfully so).

The Birth Of Feminism

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Now our nation is bustling along, with a large amount of commerce occurring between our town, the various villages and outposts, and even neighboring nations.

The young angry women that I mentioned before, however, are starting to become more vocal. They’re angry that they were raised by evil men, and thus are afraid of men having too much power. They start to get it into the heads of the younger generation that they don’t need men anymore, and that they should be able to own land, get jobs, and eventually…even vote.

There’s a lot of resistance from the older generations, who still remember the patriarchal ways that allowed this nation to achieve its state of bustle and prosperity, but as they begin to die off, the new ideology creeps into the hearts of women like a cancer. Slowly, but surely, the tides start to turn: our nation is on the tipping point between being a patriarchy and a matriarchy.

Due to the safety of this nation, which, AGAIN, patriarchy created, there’s a lot of idle time. People grow wealthy, and affluent. This breeds hedonism, a loss of virtue, and a valuing of feelings more than facts; of the short term over the long term. Even if it’s only in a few people, that’s all it takes—now, due to the dying off of the old patriarchs, women have the right to own land, work jobs, and even vote.

But in the major industries, patriarchy still reigns supreme: mercantilism, war, and trade. This is because anytime someone in these industries values feelings more than facts, they get slapped in the face by reality.

Oh, you just think it’d feel really good if you don’t need to protect your ship loaded with goods? Okay, then you’ll get raided by fucking pirates and lose a large portion of your wealth.

Oh, you just think it’d be really nice and sweet if you could make an alliance with one of the neighboring villages that’s been showing signs of aggression? Okay, then they’ll fucking attack you and you’ll lose 500 civilians before you get your head on straight.

In the less dangerous professions, however, the culture of the matriarchy is spreading. Matriarchal culture values:

  • Cooperation over competition
  • Feelings over facts
  • Equality over natural differences
  • Agreement over disagreement

Obviously cooperation, feelings, equality, and agreement all have their place, but the key difference with patriarchy is that these things aren’t prioritized, even in the face of an uncomfortable truth.

A Civilization Is Born

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Now, again, due to the superiority of patriarchy, a civilization is born. Our once small tribe, has now evolved into a civilization spanning hundreds of miles, comprised of half a million people. Women were previously allowed to vote, to own land, and to work, but up to this point, these things haven’t caused too much trouble. This is about to change.

Previously, plenty of women chose NOT to do these things, because they realized that it doesn’t make women happy. Over time, however, as the insidious seed of feminism is spread, more and more women clamor for more and more power. At this point, our society is starting to lean much more towards a matriarchal society than a patriarchal one.

Patriarchy only exists at one place: the top. Politicians, business owners, investors, bankers…why? Because you can’t become a rich and successful man if you’re a completely effeminate pussy. Regardless, the spoiled women of the newer generation see a bunch of men in power, and they attack these men for “oppressing” women, rather than applauding them for having the virtues to rise above the rest.

Due to massive pressure from the younger women, and even men (chodes are starting to emerge), politicians are forced to implement more policies in favor of women. Now, more women are in the workplace. More women are politicians, more are bankers, less and less women are mothers, and it’s even frowned upon to be a housewife (is this ringing any bells?).

Total Matriarchy

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As our society becomes more and more wealthy and spoiled, and as the older generations of men who understand the importance of masculinity die off, the younger generations start to take over. Now, we have a full blown society that values feelings more than facts (not unlike today).

And you know what? They get along just fine—for a while. The patriarchy that came before them set up a huge moat. Because of the hard work of men in the past, our current civilization can afford to be frivolous, nonsensical, and overly-emotional…for a while.

Slowly, but surely, less and less innovation occurs due to female competition at the workplace. Wages plummet as immigrants rush into the country, because it feels good to let them in. Birth rates drop, as more and more women are working, too busy to start a family, and sooner or later, men who believe in masculinity become part of a fringe group (again, is this ringing any bells?).

But then, the men who still cling to the old ways, start to notice something: a nation to the north has been awfully aggressive as of late. They’ve been roaming our land freely, and have been attacking several outposts, unchecked. The feminist indoctrinated youth and politicians clamor that “Maybe we should give them citizenship! We need to educate them and help them!”

Again, this should sound eerily familiar.

The fringe groups of masculine men know that this is utter bullshit, so they’re as vocal as possible, but nobody listens to them—the masses are far too many and far too stupid. The masculine outcasts do what they can to restore patriarchy, and they’re successful in their own little pockets of life, but not on a broad scale. The indoctrination runs too deep; it’s hard to undo the momentum of the last 5 generations passing down false knowledge to their youth.

The Collapse

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Eventually the barbarian groups realize just how pathetic this civilization is, and band together to end it once and for all.

Side note: do you think the barbarian wanderers have a patriarchal society or a matriarchal society?

By the time that everyone realizes they’re fucked, it’s too late. There’s no standing army, and even if there were, half of it would be comprised of women. They’re economically weak, due to stupid, emotionally driven policies. Their entire internal infrastructure has been weakened by decades of feminism, which has made them susceptible to invasion.

The barbarians manage to rape and pillage all of the surrounding villages, outposts, and towns, until they reach the epicenter of our civilization, the once tiny tribe, that is now a huge city.

The once self-proclaimed feminists beg for help from the men, but because they’ve been brainwashed into being giant chodes for the last several generations, they’re far too weak to do anything. They can’t think rationally in the face of danger, they aren’t physically fit, and they lack the decisiveness that men need to be successful. Our civilization is completely overrun by barbarians, and burnt to the ground—a true tragedy.

Several small groups of men and women managed to flee unharmed, however—who do you think these men were? The fringe groups, of course. They recognized the insanity of those surrounding them, so they were smart: they stockpiled supplies and weapons. They planned escape routes, and maybe some of them even built a little cabin in the mountains, miles and miles away.

Some 100 or so men and women manage to flee to these little cabins and huts that the smarter men had set up years ago, in case of disaster. Now, it’s time to rebuild.

The Cycle Continues

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We can predict, with almost 100% accuracy, that our new “tribe” will follow the EXACT same pattern as the first one. I hope that you men are taking notes, because what I’m about to tell you is perhaps one of the most important lessons of history. Society repeats itself.

Yup—society has always oscillated between being a strong patriarchy and a strong matriarchy, and so far, it continues to do the same. Patriarchy leads a society to affluence, which leads it to matriarchy, which makes it vulnerable to external threats, which leads it to collapse. Then, the survivors rebuild, and model a similar patriarchal structure as the very tribe that founded their once great civilization.

This is the great secret of ages; the lessons that have been passed down by men such as Will Durant and Sir Thomas Glubb. The wise men of the past have always known that society repeats itself, but their influence has been too small to stop it. All of this is about to change.

The Information Age

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Although I’m not very hopeful for the future of America (it saddens me to say this), I believe that we are soon going to FINALLY defeat this wicked cycle. We live in the age of information; knowledge is transferring from person to person at a completely unprecedented rate, and this rate is growing exponentially.

I firmly believe that if enough men understand this concept of “cyclical civilizations,” we will be able to stop it.

For now, there isn’t much we can do except prepare for the upcoming collapse of America. Invest your money, so that you can afford to either withstand hard financial times, or leave the US entirely. Educate yourself and grow as a human being, so that you will have the understanding and skills necessary to rebuild society from the ground up.

And finally…get ready for the shit to hit the fan. Now is the time to buy a gun.

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230 thoughts on “How Patriarchy Evolves Into Matriarchy”

  1. A good article and, I think, even if in a pared down and simple way, rings true. That said, the idea of going back to anything pre “a civilization is born” would seem terrible to me. A lot of people are down on the modern world, but I tend to like it. I guess everyone has their thing, but the modern world is not all gloom and doom. It has afforded me, at least, a load of options that simply would not have been there at any other time.

    1. If the civilization colapses, chances are most men will die. The few that survive will be exposed to unconditional worship and obedience by women, because those few men will be needed to rebuild and restore everything. That’s what some people want.

      1. The author seems to be saying that that is happening anyway….that we are on a cyclical pattern. I am merely saying that if I had to chose one point in that cycle to live in I would pick the one I am currently in.

        1. it is what Nietzsche called a positive nihilism. Nihilism was hijacked by a bunch of emo faggots (you might have noticed that they are good at that, cf beards, hats, thick framed sun glasses, cheese, music, soccer, etc. etc. etc.). The truth, however, is that nihilism is an incredibly positive thing.
          When you accept that there is nothing then you have some choices. One of which is to be an emo faggot. But the better choice is to become god and be a creator.

        2. I thought you’d subscribe more to the Nechayev variety of nihilism. If it survives it has value

        3. Value is created by the subject in my world view. Also, in the end, nothing survives and its value dies with it. While alive, there is a whole world of possibilities. Creating your own value is the only way to have any value.
          With the death of god comes a job opening. It is a job worth taking.

        4. “With the death of god comes a job opening. It is a job worth taking.”
          True but how much of the evolution we’re all straining under comes down to exactly that? And of course value creation requires destruction of the old values, which is what we’re seeing here

        5. To paraphrase some Christian proto-nihilism:
          “The grass whithers and the flowers fade…”
          “One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.”
          “The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.”
          If you were to read the full context of such nihilistic verses, you would find they end in affirmation and positivity, as well. Nothing new under the sun, indeed.

        6. I’m just saying that the ‘evolution’ that has replaced God is itself a set of values that may need revising. That evolution – which currently presents us with globalism and matriarchy etc – seems to me largely a human rather than a ‘natural’ creation. So if we don’t like it presumably we could sweep it away

        7. I agree. But I also feel God was a largely human creation as well. In the end, like god, what we have now will collapse. It will take a very long time though and I am benefiting greatly from the current state of things.

        8. The unermench is the becoming. Nietzsche is a dangerous tool to use. His terminology is incredibly slippery

        9. Yeah feuerbach and all that. I think the point of a lot articles though is that not everybody is feeling those benefits. Would you expect to enjoy those benefits you speak of under a matriarchy for instance, which is perhaps what we have. Surely how long a system ‘ lasts’ is up to us. The world moves quickly these days

        10. Indeed the world moves faster than it did thanks to technology. A lot of articles, as you say, do point to an idea that not everyone is so happy with things. But the reason all this comes about is because the people who had it differently weren’t happy with what they had either.
          No one has ever been content and no amount of idealizing the past, demonizing the present or working for the future will ever change that. I think that the people who feel most aggrieved about the current state of affairs really need to realize just how much good opportunity is actually out there for the taking.

        11. “I think that the people who feel most aggrieved about the current state
          of affairs really need to realize just how much good opportunity is
          actually out there for the taking.”
          Perhaps, but it may be a question of what kind of opportunity is there for the taking. Is it something worth having, or are we simply accommodating to a ‘system’, one that might be, or might turn out to be, fundamentally antagonistic to our interests. After all, that’s pretty much the core message of ROK, that the present situation is an antagonism towards men, and perhaps has even been designed as such. So if that’s the case, and leaving aside that compromise is what one does in life, we may need to ask the question, what exactly is it we are accommodating to? But then again, suppose it is isn’t a zero sum game, and it isn’t the totalitarian system that we like to say it is, then there is still the question of whether accommodation, which could easily be seen to be no more than Chamberlain like appeasement, is a better or worse way to get those ‘good opportunities’. I’d say for an increasing number of men – and you cannot be unaware of this – the salt has lost its savour. And if that is the case, surely that should be a thing of concern to the salt seller.
          Those people who were disenchanted and ceased to be so, somehow, it is unlikely they achieved that change simply through accommodation

        12. Many people consider God granting Solomon his great wisdom to rule his nation to be the peak of Solomon’s excellence. That’s fine, its an interesting story you can learn from, but that can be said about much of the Bible.
          I think Solomon’s greatness and wisdom lies in Ecclesiastes, after almost everything had relied on and claimed his love for had been lost to him.
          Reading the Bible can be tedious to some. But I have yet to see anyone who wasn’t surprised to find out what was contained in Ecclesiastes.

        13. I am not sure about the core message of ROK. I do, obviously, agree that there is a present situation of antagonism towards men. However, I tend to be positive. Where roads close others open to those bold and creative enough to take them.
          I do feel that trying to redress the current situation by pushing against it and idealizing some past way of living is not the best way to handle things. There is a lot wrong with the world today. There has always been a lot wrong…just different things at different times. But I have an inherent optimism that says the more fucked up things are the more there is room to wedge myself in.
          My current career is based solely on 3 women inheriting an empire and having no idea how to run it. I wedged myself into a position that could never have existed in a male dominated society. I wouldn’t be needed. It was, if I do say so myself, a clever use of my personality to get a foot in a door where masculinity was needed and the money and power was for taking.
          If you look close at the problems in a society you may come away aggrieved and depressed. But remember, no one needs people to carve a road through a valley…it is through a mountain it is needed. There are a lot of obstacles in the way right now. Because of this, a little creativity can go a long way in allowing you to create opportunities for yourself and, hopefully, turn them into the kind of money that will one day afford you the ability to decide whether or not you want to remain in society.

        14. “I do feel that trying to redress the current situation by pushing
          against it and idealizing some past way of living is not the best way to
          handle things”
          Well there certainly is a kind of David and Goliath thing going on with ROK. Sure there is too much idealizing of a (always partly) mythical past where things were better, but if the issue in question is the value of masculinity and masculinity itself as a whole is under attack then looking back to a golden age might be understandable. I’d like to think there’s more to ‘neo-masculinity’ or whatever than that but one can look both back and forward at the same time.
          I can appreciate (and admire) the way you’ve managed to gain advantage in a situation that might seem less than promising on the surface (although it’s been kind of a long time since women had limited inheritance rights) but while I think the image of carving a road through a mountain is a good one, one can perhaps have a different idea about what the mountain in question actually is. Money and success is indeed important, but I think the point of ROK is about what sort of society is worth having (I hesitate to say worth living in) and what kind of opportunities one should seek if one is of the opinion that the world as it is, isn’t worth so much. I’m actually quite optimistic in my own way, but I don’t really see a contradiction between taking opportunities where they arise and carving ones way through mountains or for that matter paradigms / the status quo etc. The last few centuries have been built on revolutions after all.

        15. agree on all fronts my friend. It is only the idea of revolution or civil war to bring about the mad max shit and re institute some idealized version of the 1500’s that the people in the 1500’s were fighting every day to get the fuck away from makes me a little nutters.
          Other than that, yes you are right. And the inheritance rights are only the part of it. They now hold a company and have been brainwashed that anyone can do any job and then had 15 years of hiring morons and women to do jobs they are unqualified for which opened up a way for me to shimmy my way in to a side door using the fact that my arms look like what they masturbate to when their faggy jew husbands are in the shower.
          Using that ability I was able to create a situation where I can conceivably, at a reasonable age, retire and move somewhere that I can spent the rest of my life pursuing the things I want and not being beholden to anyone.
          In order to get into this job I needed women to be running a company, a social idea that anyone can do any job, the ability to get an education and confidence despite being born in a very impoverished situation, for there to be a culture of men who look like 12 year old girls and a culture that tells women in their 50’s that it is totally ok to be flirty with the young studs they encounter because they are going through a sexual prime.
          My goal isn’t this job. My goals involve things I want to do for myself that involve me not having to work for a living and this job will get me there. In the meantime it offers me a lot of other fun things like enjoying tons of young and upwardly mobile twat that like corporate guys in suits and a passion for very good scotch.
          Whatever it is that your goal is, that is a personal thing. I want a veranda with a desk that I can write a book on my laptop in during a rain shower and a vegetable garden. I want a boat I can take out in the middle of an afternoon. I have known what my eventual goals are since I was a child and have constantly been on the look out for ways to make them happen…I have made some mistakes, wasted some time and money, but kept trying.
          Whatever your goal is, I can tell you this above anything else….so long as it is a reasonable goal (being the first astronaut who wins the indy 500 on the same day that he pitches no hitters on both sides of a double header for instance) the opportunity is out there. Yes, there are some fucked up things about this world and it is antagonistic to white men. But that is ok. Which world was so much better? The one where medical care involved whisky and leeches? The one where I had to do back breaking labor all day just to eat? The one where if I was born poor there was almost no chance of me to change my station in life?
          Each time has had its up and downsides. I just feel that wishing that things were different take away from recognizing the ways to manipulate the way things are in such a way that you effect your own desired outcome….which should be whatever it is you want.

        16. 1500s? So subconsciously you’re associating all these ROK grumblings with the Protestant Revolution, a movement to sweep away corruption and indulgences? I understand where you’re coming from. I’m really not talking about ‘reaction’. But if “revolution” keeps on producing the same old thing…..more leftie liberal progress…..and more..and more (and I completely bought into this at one time) then the question becomes, how revolutionary is it? Isn’t it just stuck in a sought of rut. Just a very brilliant kind of obsessive compulsive disorder? If the wheel keeps turning there is a sense in which the wheel is no longer turning.
          I am not anti-progress. Progress happens, but I do question whether it is a single unilinear kind of thing. Again if it is, then it seems more like habit than something genuinely revolutionary. Another thing is all the ideology that seems to accompany all these revolutions – all the things one must think in order to be progressive – whether its liberte, egalite, fraternite, or its good to be gay….revolutions seem to create new possibilities only to close down the mind. But I take your point about there being little virtue in hearkening for what is irretrievable.
          Now personally I don’t think I could shimmy or sashay or anything. That makes you sound like Jeeves or something. I get the moral, I think, although its a strange one: you’re basically saying be a bull in bear market, although that isn’t that much different from saying enjoy the decline. In a sense the manosphere exists because men are actually very good seeing each other as rivals (which of course is what we are in the final instance) but then there are occasions when solidarity or team work (I am very bad at team-work, slightly better at solidarity) is a better and more reliable way to get ahead. I think there’s a growing appreciation that this default to atomistic ambition (I am not saying that’s what you’re describing in any way though) is something which has done us great harm as a ‘species’. Not everything can be done on ones own.
          I too would quite like a veranda and a desk, and a boat. A garden would be nice, although I had one of those and it didn’t agree with me for some reason. You are quite right that there are opportunities out there and if there aren’t one must make them, but equally I don’t think its necessarily the best strategy to always be trying to play the bull in the bear market. That isn’t about wishful thinking necessarily, but the will and the vision perhaps to not only create new markets (which is just to play the game as it was intended) but to fundamentally change the market itself. Revolution is a very relative thing.

        17. None of this is anything I particularly disagree with. I did pull 1500 out of nowhere. I could as easily have said 1990, 50,1880 etc.
          The larger point I’m making is that we are where we are…there is some good and some bad. The bull shit progressive left nonesense is really disgusting to me. That said, there it is. My choices are limited. I can either whine about it, move to some under developed shit hole nation and hide from it, try to foment revolution against it or accept it and start looking for ways to take advantage of it.
          The first 2 aren’t healthy for anyone imo. The third is noble, but even at the most successful you are really only setting up future generations of which I couldn’t care less because of my selfishness. That’s on me. Like I said, it’s a noble choice. I chose the fourth and doing so have been able to succeed in some pretty big ways and truly find a lot of enjoyment in my life — not just in physical enterprises like fucking women, eating good food, releasing endorphins with physical excersize, but also mental and spiritual ones.
          I do understand ROK is a big tent and make that argument a lot. I feel a lot of truly noble souls are here and are honestly trying to make a difference for their kids or for the world in general. That is great. I don’t say they shouldn’t, just that that isn’t a path I wish to take.
          Revolution, as you say, is relative indeed. However I do not think our revolutions are at odds…it’s only the mad max bring down society and have a civil war people who are at odds with my vision.

        18. I don’t have much time for the mad max / civil war types either – it’s a slightly alien idea to UK / europe, and would probably achieve quite the opposite to what is intended.
          I can’t see anything wrong with no. 2 as long as you do in the right spirit – fleeing a sinking ship mentality probably doesn’t qualify whereas seeking new pastures might well do. Otherwise I would say 3 & 4 (and perhaps 2) are not necessarily incompatible. Arguably 3 & 4 have often been combined, depending on how something is done. Changing something / shaking things up is often a very good way of taking control to a degree, otherwise you are just a functionary of “the system”, passively playing the game according to the rules in the handbook. The whole focus on self-improvement and focusing on opportunities is fine, and healthy, but that can certainly be combined with a wider engagement with the world, including a critical engagement with a political system that appears massively skewed. That could be an engagement in “revolutionary” politics or something more prosaic. It certainly wouldn’t be hard to argue that ROK exists because the feminine is currently massively overvalued, and the masculine undervalued, and that there is a consequent need for a price correction. Whether that would provide the emotional / psychological catharsis desired is another question though. Every movement needs its bezerkers I guess

        19. A good insight and something many persons don’t seem to notice. Thanks to the inefficiencies of our world as it is, there are openings that many men (including me indirectly) rely on for the sake of our careers, otherwise we would be doing something else. The real tragedy is that space exploration is in the interest of no one so no money for that and here we are…

        20. Agreed. Space exploration had the promise to be the western frontier of the 21st century. It is a shame and I think it fails for a lot of reasons including, but not limited to, a lack of intellectual curiosity due to a culture that has become, over the last 25 years, increasingly hostile to intellect as well as a culture which is not physically capable of the demands of space travel. Plus, that dyson vacuum lunatic has been working on fucking vacuums for 30 years instead of, ya know, getting us to fucking mars.
          But there is a lot here. Glad you are taking advantage as well.

    2. True. And I hope Roosh and other bloggers here realise how they profit themselves from their cushy fluff job writing blog articles for a living from an AC office, or even better, from home or a local Starbucks. I really wouldn’t want to go back to hunting or fishing for a living either. I guess I’m a chode too…

      1. I think they do. Not many people here seem 100% hostile to the world and I see a lot of positivity. But yeah, not just the joy of a freaking supermarket…but when I think about things in my own life. Being born broke ass poor at pretty much any other stage in history would mean I would still be broke ass poor.
        Or what about when I tore my ACL, MCL and LCL in one shot and within a year was stronger than ever and back to an active life style instead of, I don’t know, being leeched or shot or some shit.
        I think there is a lot of idealizing a time in the past that the people who lived through were very adamant about getting the fuck out of. Shit, I don’t even want to 20 years back. The idea of having to deal with cunt hair again is just miserable.

        1. I liked it just fine right up until the very second I learned there was an alternative. I still remember the girls name (which is fairly rare for me given the time frame we are talking about). When I got my first hand full of waxed puss I felt like Paul on the Road to Damascus. My eyes were opened and my life forever altered. For never again would I tolerate hair. To paraphrase Acts 9:7 “And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no hair”

        2. The evolution of mankind is actually very simple. On one end there are primitive cavemen and on the other end there are advanced aliens. I feel it is pretty obvious which way the hair trend is going and I am not going backwards in evolution. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/438c153286a0b17d01f109ae597387a3a9991e39c4b0df40414eb370914a9adb.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/974eea38f483570a0c3b95fdded1b8e43245cc5d63d352933294b3c4c769634c.jpg

        3. But how do you know if she’s underaged or not now ?
          We have a French saying :
          “S’il y a du poil,
          c’est légal.” (it rhymes).
          “If there is hair, then it is legal”. As a rhyming translation, I thought about : “If it’s hairy, it is statutory.”

        4. Cartoons used to be so much edgier, god damn. Not in a vulgar way, but in a witty way like that. Maybe I should write an article on the PC-ification of cartoons.

        5. There was even a bit about ‘ the feel of her soft fur as you made love’. Blew my ten year old mind

        6. lololol but it’s not even true even if funny because the AOC in France is 15 but girls can get hair earlier than that, sometimes even as early as 10.

        7. This is the exact opposite of what I believe. I coined my own: if the zambony hasn’t cleaned the ice, don’t put on your skates

        8. The alien can laser beam a planet to death the caveman is impressed by the wheel

        9. The alien will be too much of a pussy to do that right, by the time xir’s gotten around to getting committee approval with all the backstabbing and sucking up, the caveman will use his ganja-enhanced brain to spiritually teleport onto the alien ship and club all the faggot-aliens to death.

        10. I don’t know. In a battle between death rays and rocks I am going death rays every time.
          Death Rays and No Hair. That is my vision for the future. That said, I will straight up stop if I get a woman’s skirt off and find any hair. I have sent them into the bathroom to shave it off with the ultimatum that the front door is just as easy as the bathroom door.
          Even a little hitler ‘stache is beyond contempt.

        11. See, that’s your problem. You have FuckVision ™, you can only process things in terms of what you are going to stick your dick in. The real reason you’re going with the aliens is because they look more female, and so unconsciously your mind chooses them then rationalizes it after the fact.

        12. I won’t deny that my eyes have a slight afuckmatism. However, the ability to travel from galaxy to galaxy and, ya know, fucking death rays beat rock….hell they beat paper and scissors too but the cave man hasn’t even got those.
          Your problem is that you are imagining Xir like Piccard debating and looking for high command orders. I can see why. The hairless thing. But I think you need to realize that Xir is more like Grand Moff Tarkin. He will blow up Alderaan just to make a fucking point.

        13. That’s exactly my point! Everyone knows that Grand Moff Tarkin was taken out by a Noghri who stabbed him with a knife. If that doesn’t prove what I’m saying, I don’t know what would!
          Oh shit… did I just fall into a NerdTrap?

        14. “Paul on the Road to Damscus”, that right there is pure gold. I hear you. My wife get’s the full brazilian bi-weeklly. I had no idea the cost until recently. I am frugal, very frugal. She was reluctant to inform me of the cost. It’s a decent chunk of coin but it’s worth every penny. I still suffer from PTSD from the bad ol’ days of bush.

      2. Haha I agree, mate – I’m not saying that I don’t enjoy the conveniences that modern society has given us. I’m saying that we need to preserve a CULTURE of patriarchy!
        Totally different than being a tribe or living primaly. We need to start creating a hybrid between modern society and primal living (eat wild caught food, have men hunt and fight, etc.) to satisfy the “animal” inside us, while maintaining the civilization that we’ve built.

        1. You should read the Tao. I think you would like it. I agree with you by the way. Some say Taoists where the first libertarians.

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        3. That’s the key. Stave off matriarchy during abundance. But I think there needs to be a difference noted between hard and soft matriarchies. I’m coining this now, but I don’t think every culture has had the type of matriarchy we have had recently, where women’s rights are prioritized in the workplace and in society above men’s, women are aloud to vote, own land/property, companies and hold positions of high political and military power. We are in a period of the hardest possible form of matriarchy.
          A soft matriarchy would be a society that values feminine ideals and life styles without actually putting the women in power. It is my impression that some civilizations entered a phase like this before collapse. I don’t think, for instance that Rome had women in the powerful positions that we put them in today, yet their collapse became inevitible due to their excess’s. So I ask, what’s the difference and what is the similarity?
          A good article might compare modern America with what is known about say the 5 or 10 greatest cultures in history just before their collapse. That article might be up your alley. I don’t know.

      3. I think that’s the author and Roosh’s point. That the comfortable, advanced society we currently have is due to a nationalist patriarchy.
        As we move away from this system we will devolve. As has been said before “The sad reality is if we left it to women we’d still be living in caves with nice, pretty drapes”.

    3. Civilizations rise and fall in basically the same ways. On the one hand, it sucks because what we now enjoy will eventually die, but on the other hand we have a chance to enjoy what’s left for now.
      Me, I think longer term. When our society inevitably dies, I want for me or my descendents to be prepared to build a new one (hopefully slightly better and slightly longer-lived) on its ashes. That’s always my takeaway when articles like this pop up.

      1. It is a fair enough wish. I don’t have the same one. I have no decedents and will curse anyone who tries to saddle me with them. There is too much to enjoy. Society wont be dying until long after your grandchildren have children. In the meantime, being obsessed with bullshit just takes away from enjoying what we have.

        1. I don’t know if we have that long. All the indicators seem to suggest otherwise. The debt, low fertility rates among high IQ people, cultural decadence, rising police state, 3rd world immigration, Jewish-incited wars all over the Middle East and spreading to the west..
          Could be much sooner than you think.

        2. It could be it could not be. At the very outside I have 60 years to live. I am going to bet that other that some technology and style not a damn thing will change in those 60 years. It’s a bit of a gamble, but not a high risk one.

        3. What utter rubbish. If you are a defeatist, shut up and get out of the way, because you are part of the problem. It’s never too late to save Western civilization. And the best way to do it is for high IQ men like you to procreate. If every man like you met a high IQ woman of humbleness, integrity and honor, and bred with them, and trained your children the principles of philosophy, patriarchy and ethics whether they be religious or secular ethics, our society would be saved within a single generation.
          It took 12 male disciples to create a religion that helped create Western civilization. Our numbers do not have to be overwhelmingly large to make change.
          I always tell high IQ men and women–breed, breed, breed. We need your genetic material to live on so the world doesn’t become idiocracy.

        4. so, if I am to sum everything up….you are an idiot and have totally failed to be successful in modern conditions so you long to turn back the evolution of the world to a time you have idealized where, at least in your head, you aren’t quite as big of a loser. Because of this you need to create a psychological defense mechanism where you look at the people who are happy with their lives and the world around them and comfortable in their own skin and call them “defeatests”
          K.
          now that we got that sorted out, go back to your cave shit for brains.

        5. Shrugs. You sound like an gamma with asbergers. If you consider Vox Day and Stephan Molyneux men of such characteristics, feel free to contact them with your aspersions, as men of their character inspire me to think and act as such. Your first paragraph has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion, so I can only deduce that, that is a projection of your current circumstances and as such you should probably kill yourself.

        6. Why is it that it is always the lowest functioning members of society pushing the procreation racket.

        7. Why is it that gamma males and SJW warriors always respond to an argument with, “You’re stupid.”
          Since you are probably too narcissistic to kill yourself here’s my recommended remedy: Find your nearest cloning facility. There are many fine cloning facilities in the modern world. They will send you a vial, which you will fill with a couple of inches of spit (your DNA), then you add this blue solution to the spit and shake it up; that stabilizes the solution. There is a mailing box with the postage already paid, so you won’t need to sell any of your Xbox games to send it. You should receive your anatomically correct clone in 4-6 weeks. Unbox it carefully and don’t use a box cutter, because you don’t want to damage that brand new flesh. Unwrap the clone very carefully, bend it over and go fuck yourself.

        8. How about you go procreate and take care of child support, nobody has to help you create the utopia you dream of since you’re so much smarter. And since you and your wife would have what was it, pfft “high IQ genes” let’s completely ignore the fact that you don’t even know the names of those codons and genes for higher IQ you wouldn’t have to teach your children anything or go to school, they have smart genes they wil get smart with no effort right?

        9. Because reproduction IS the highest function. It is your definition of high and low that is defective. Think of it as evolution in action.
          From an evolutionary standpoint you and all your kind are a dead end that has to be culled from the gene pool. Laqueefa and her eight crotch fruits are the winner. We are living through an r-selected period and she is obeying the directives of Mother Nature.

        10. ok. Well you and Laqueefa have a lot in common then. I’m just gonna be over here living my life. Le sigh

      1. Of course we do not have to succumb but there are things we will need to either accept as being part of the whole or actively try to change.

    4. “A good article and, I think, even if in a pared down and simple way, rings true.”
      My thoughts exactly. To add to the conversation and for a more in depth understanding of this from a scientific point of view I strongly recommend for those have not already watched, checking out the gene wars YouTube videos by Stephan Molyneux, I’ll leave a link below.
      It’s the theory of R verses K selected gene sets which change in the human race based off of abundance or scarcity of resources. In short an abundance of resources creates R selected reproductive strategies in humans: high sex drive, lower IQ, low in-group preference and the inability to plan ahead aka leftists/matriarchy. Scarcity of resources basically creates K selected gene sets: lower sex drive, higher IQ, high in-group preferences and being able to plan far ahead aka Right wing patriarchy.

      You’ll never look at the world the same way again after watching these. And it will give you some hope that we can stop this cycle from repeating once and for all.
      Really fantastic article.

  2. Forget it. This is not what matriarchy looks like.
    In the north of Spain you have a society that was a traditional matriarchy: Basque country. And there were not such big differences: it was less political, more quiet, we had no kings or queens, more oriented to small towns and farms, and men used to have their own clubs where they used to gather and, of course, the mountains, always the mountains. Farms and towns, city life, women used to have more power than men.
    It’s one of the very few matriarchal societies in the World. Or it was.
    Not a big deal. A bit different, not that much.
    What you have now in US is NOT a matriarchy. It’s a government from a leftist elite, which is very different.

      1. Well, basques are one of the oldest peoples in Western Europe. It goes back to Stone Age. So it has been there for a while. It was quite isolated, for centuries. Just imagine that my grand-parents didn’t learn Spanish until they got married (my grandparent needed to talk Spanish to make business so he had to learn it).
        But it has changed, as everything does. I’d say biggest changes happened for the last one hundred years. Until then, it didn’t change very much.

        1. Men were needed back then, unlike now. If you are a very valuable employee of a company, you can almost be the boss of your boss. Things changed when men were no longer needed.

        2. Men are still needed. Or do you think feminist organizations make the world work?
          The problem is that now money flows through taxes and alimony, and who controls that flow becomes the middleman with the monopoly. It’s a classical problem of monopolistic economies, middlemen and extractive elites. But that problem, which until now used to apply only to market economy, now it applies to family economy too.

        3. Well, technically men are needed. But most men are not. In the distant (or not so distant) past every single man was needed to maintain the civilization. Now we live in a secure society that provides for women everything they need, and that can be sustained by a fraction of all men. It increases the chances of finding blue pill men to do given jobs without challenging the narrative. Not every single man is a coal miner, an engineer etc. That makes many men redundant.
          In the distant past if someone suggested some bullshit and you didn’t agree, all the people in the tribe would listen to your viewpoint and eventually common sense would prevail (yours or someone else’s). Nowadays they can just flip you the bird and move on.

        4. Right. Workers (Men) in general are needed, but a woman doesn’t need “a man” for anything. And there will always be a mass of beta men out there, as there are in all societies, which do their jobs, day in and day out and don’t question anything. The difference is that today a man is completely unneeded by most women, whereas in years past, it was absolutely essential that a woman lock down a good man. When you need something, you value it. When men are no longer needed, they are not valued.

        5. A woman doesn’t ‘need a man’ in present society, she needs ‘men’ even if she doesn’t realize the direct correlation.

    1. No one said that the US is a perfect matriarchy. Before the transformation is complete the civilization gets destroyed.
      It is hard to separate the ruling men from their power.
      The transformation can only be completed when a civilization has found a “safe space” in some isolated place like those basques did.
      What has been presented here is simply a concept based on Jacob Watsons observations in his book “of the rise and fall of ancient civilizations”.
      Matriarchies are always backwards to actual progress and thus get wiped out.
      Such government also leads to depravity which seems to be a necessity to quell men’s drive.

    2. That’s a good point, because there is nothing feminine about today’s feminists in America, which wield so much political power.

    3. Great comment.
      Also, Basque country is an amazing and calming place. The only problem is the traffic because they put all their Basques on one Exit (that’s for you @disqus_q7cnnyJ7N9:disqus )
      I don’t know about its matriarchal history and was only there shortly so don’t really know much about its politics and culture. What I do know is that it was, in the best sense of the world, a simple and calming place with very good food and very cool people.

      1. Yeap, it was matriarchal. You could notice the difference. According to the tradition, men worked and after work they had their own space to gather with no women around. That’s why it was very traditional for men to cook when they gathered. Basically, women had more power, and as a compensation men had their own “sacred” space (kind of associations), where no women were allowed. And of course, during the weekend going to the mountains and looking for mushrooms was another way to have a private male space. Or gathering to make music, male choirs were another tradition.
        So, in a nutshell… men had less space, but this space was more private.
        That has changed. Not allowing women in male associations was “sexist” and the tradition is almost gone. I can still remember it, when I was a kid, but it’s not truly alive anymore.
        What I’m saying is.. feminism is not matriarchy. Matriarchy is just another set of rules, with its own mechanism to balance and compensate and to work long term. And when feminism entered a truly matriarchal society, it just broke it, the same way it has broken american society.
        Feminism is not matriarchy. It’s just… crazyness.
        PS As a little curiosity, this is a very nice song from a french singer with a traditional male choir

        1. Cool…I think Basque history is fascinating. The Basque language is very difficult to learn, it’s origins unknown . Sounds like there was separation of the sexes which kept the peace. Certainly the Basque men weren’t “feminized ” as they have a rep for being fierce fighters…

        2. Separation of the sexes is CRUCIAL to maintaining a society.
          Whenever men and women can’t have time alone they naturally adapt one another’s characteristics.
          Men become too feminine, and women become more masculine.

        3. Very good and very interesting stuff here. Thank you. Agreed about feminism not being matriarchal. Nice stuff

        4. Nothing is wrong. I just had already written a couple of long comments, which takes 10-15 minutes each, so my internet time is done.

        5. the women aren’t becoming more ‘masculine’ so to speak. you’ve seen them right. they act like nasty little boys. with emotions that are out of control. nothing masculine about that.

        6. How can a bunch of men dominated by women have a rep for being fierce fighters?
          I have never heard of that. Nor have I ever heard of them conquering or even fighting in any major battles.
          I notice a trend here from the atheistic part of RoK to be open to the idea of a matriarchy as long as the women are feminine.
          What bullshit is this?
          It’s the same with your apparent “spirituality”.
          Sure, you want all the good parts but none of the responsibilities.
          You want a feminine woman without having to dominate her and to own up to that.
          Pathetic.

      1. Well, it’s the wealthiest part of Spain. Indeed, the region has a better credit rating than the rest of country (both in Moodys and Standard and Poors). It’s the less corrupt part of Spain too. And it has the highest rate of startups and the lowest unemployment in the country.
        And it has only a couple of million of people, the population of Nebraska. It’s a small place.
        But it could be much better if it was independent from Spain.

        1. When it comes to economics you are right, my bad. However your market is still the rest of Spain and large part of the infrastructure (main highways and other transport infrastructure) was at least financed by the rest of Spain. Moreover if you are so great how come the rest of the country doesn’t speak your über-complicated language and not the other way around?

        2. Highways are used to distribute products from the whole world. I don’t see the point in your commentary. I don’t even see what it supposed to mean.
          With regard to the language stuff, basques were never the kind of people interested in conquering other lands to make them speak your language.
          I suppose that as an answer to that you will say: now you speak Spanish. And that’s true, but the area was a very isolated one until one century ago. Belonging to Spain was not such a big issue and nobody predicted how the world would be globalized and how countries would blur into some more homogeneous culture. When people realized that, it was too late. There has been a terrorist group for decades, that got nothing.
          Leaving a country is one of the most difficult things you can do, specially if you’re the wealthy part. Nobody wants to let go the wealthy partner.
          You’re gonna discover that now in US. The country is gonna become a mix of different cultures. White people will be working to transfer rents to other social groups, and they’re not gonna let them go. Somebody has to pay taxes to keep welfare. The same that happens in South Africa, where white people are genocided, but nobody is gonna let them become independent. They will be dead first, but they will die paying taxes.

        3. Highways are used to distribute products from the whole world. I don’t see the point in your commentary. I don’t even see what it
          supposed to mean.

          My point was that without these infrastructure, paid and built partly by the central government (and thus the rest of the Spaniards) the development of the natural advantages of the region as a gateway port and an industrial center would have been infinitely harder if not impossible at all. In other words the development of the Basque country in what it is now wouldn’t have been possible without the rest of Spain, something similar to the situation of New York vis a vis the rest of the USA, in that aspect, New York is wealthy because the rest of the country’s wealth provided a base for its operations and the wealth was there to be concentrated there, otherwise it would be nothing more than a gentle little town in the north Atlantic.
          I get your point about the distinctiveness of the Basque peoples and that unlike the Catalonians and other groups, they have no historical links either to the protohispanic nations (the ancient kingdoms of Spain) or to the Spanish crown. However the comparison with South Africa or the U.S. is disingenuous, the Blacks in South Africa have produced nothing of importance before Shaka and the Spanish core (Castille) produced one of the greatest empires of the Earth (let alone dozens of artists, fine literature among other things). My point was that not even the Basque country is a successful example of a Matriarchy (the good perks you mentioned notwithstanding)
          BTW I am not American, but I’ve been there. Thanks for the compliment to my otherwise faulty English.

        4. — “My point was that without these infrastructure, paid and built partly by the central government (and thus the rest of the Spaniards) the development of the natural advantages of the region as a gateway port and an industrial center would have been infinitely harder if not impossible at all.”
          Yeap, obviously. Without infrastructures there’s no commerce. But, you know? The “central government” is not giving anything for free. It’s paid with taxes.
          When you’re going out to the street and there you have a street and you have a road, it’s not that the government “gave” it to you. It’s something that has been paid with your taxes.
          And by the way, most of infrastructures have been built in the South of Spain, because it was the underdeveloped area. If we’re talking about transference of money, it has been done from the NORTH TOWARDS THE SOUTH of the country, not the opposite.
          — “I get your point about the distinctiveness of the Basque peoples and that unlike the Catalonians and other groups, they have no historical links either to the protohispanic nations (the ancient kingdoms of Spain) ”
          I beg you pardon?? I answered a question about for how long this kind of society had been there. “Distinctiveness”??
          What the hell are you talking about?? Are you nuts?? What’s wrong with you, mate??
          You’re starting to talk nonsense and to assign me things I haven’t said… dude, you should visit Spain. Definitely, you would like it, it’s the same type of character.
          — “the Blacks in South Africa have produced nothing of importance before Shaka and the Spanish core (Castille) produced one of the greatest empires of the Earth (let alone dozens of artists, fine literature among other things).”
          An Empire that started with the gold from America and ended when the flow of gold stopped, and that was built using that gold to hire mercenaries. And besides a couple of writers and painters, nothing more was done. No advances in science, no advances in technology, no advance in laws…
          You think that was great. Well, fine, that’s ok.

        5. Someone got triggered. I think my english is sufficient for you to understand what I said. What I don’t understand is the reason of your anger. Are the Basque peoples not completely different from the rest of the inhabitants of the Iberian peninsula? Are they not bereft of the same historical ties shared by the rest of the peoples in that peninsula to the point that your language has no relation to other languages either in Spain or in the rest of Europe?
          The rest of your response is anti-spanish screed but it’s understandable given your history and the character of your people. Have a nice day

        6. Checking your history… it seems that you’re Spanish. Non-sense and conflicts and non-sense and conflicts. How could you be anything else?
          Dear god, not even in an international page it’s possible to breathe easy and get rid of those parasytes.

        7. Thanks for the compliment but no. I am not Spaniard and spanish is my second mothertongue.
          Still you haven’t answered my question: are you not utterly different from the rest of Spain?

        8. You debate of internal politics of Spain in Spanish websites in Spanish, you behave as the typical troublesome and problematic Spanish with its endless non-sense arguments … but you’re not Spanish.
          Yeah right!
          Dear god, not even in a fucking international page it’s possible to have some peace.

        9. Thanks you for confirming the stereotype of your people. Still you haven’t even answered my question which by the way would be the only justification for an independence. Bye

  3. For women, patriarchy is just as expendable as men are. Centuries and millenia of civilization destroyed by a few generations. It’s like when you save money for a whole year just to have all of it wasted on Christmas and New Year. I can’t even imagine the resentment of the future generations.

    1. This is why so many men are wishing for some kind of collapse of civilization. Women’s illusion of male obsolescence will be debunked in a matter of hours. They will be begging even omega males to protect and provide for them.
      Hell if the power goes out in a house for more than a few hours, all of the females present become absolutely useless.

      1. Venezuela is that example. Feminism and gay rights were big there before Chavez came into power. Ideology will not put food in their stomach. Venezuelan women are very dependent on men.
        Many prostitutes, webcam whores or escorts are Venezuelans.

    1. But that would be contrary to the point. It is a devolution on in your definition of it going from good to bad.
      However, patriarchy was a natural outcropping, like the article said and matriarchy is a natural outcropping of the excess that patriarchy will, if left to flourish, eventually provide. I believe the author is saying that the next stage of that evolution is that the foundation of patriarchy which matriarchy evolves out of will eventually crumble do the weight of the later becoming unsustainable and then collapse and the cycle starts again.
      So it would be evolve. And to his credit, I feel the author takes a lot of the personal feelings about it out so that he can present his argument dispassionately which gives it more weight and force.

  4. I agree about the cyclical nature of civilizations. However I don’t see it so much as Patriarchy vs Matriarchy.
    The article basically states(and I agree) that patriarchy is the foundation to build any kind of civilizations beyond primitive tribal. So if patriarchy is civilization itself, then matriarchy must surely be the absolute absence of it.
    Men just need to rule again, in their own inner lives and then outward.
    I believe that a healthy society needs near constant conflict to weed out the weak. To build virtues and purpose among the men to fight.
    The simple truth of the modern world is we no longer need each other. We have become entirely dependent on the Corporate-State complex. Our lives ARE meaningless and empty. This is why morons constantly need the dopamine release of chemicals in their brain from their feels. To numb and blur their minds from the creeping doom of reality.
    They cannot hide from the inescapable truth. That they are fucking worthless. A pathetic husk fumbling around in a sterile androgynous body with no past and no future.
    NOTHING to live for except to CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME.
    Even as a kid I seemed to have the completely foreign mindset to confront ugly truths instead of hide from them. This caused people and especially females to be irritated, agitated and spiteful towards me. I even thought there was something wrong with me a child. It wasn’t until many many years later that I realized I should’ve trusted my instincts all along. I was right.
    Everyone IS a fucking moron.
    Now open wide my little pigs.
    History itself speaks loud that for the modern weakling and effeminate faggot, doom is coming. This new generation of retard consciousness will not be able to grease the rusted wheels of our degenerate civilization.
    It is most definitely going to come crashing down with long forgotten brutality. This will be a necessary thing to happen if ever we are to see patriarchy in the west again.

    1. Agreed, nature will weed out the weak eventually. If not by nuclear war by extinction. The current female emancipation taking place was inevitable and seems to be separating men based on their fitness. Lower betas, omegas and gammas will not procreate and their faulty genetics cease to exist.
      Society no longer requires women to tolerate weak men. MGTOW and feminism are logical and predictable reactions to an open sexual marketplace. The bottom of the barrel is pissed off at their own obsolescence. Ironically, feminism is responsible for opening up the sexual marketplace and the free competition effects women much more than men. Hypergamized female promiscuity provides absolutely zero long term benefit for females or males. Its a biological dead end.

    2. I think Islam may be that long forgotten brutality. Shoot, it was for almost the entirety of western development. Our ancestor’s entire existence was spent keeping the hordes beyond the walls out of Europe.

  5. In essence, it would seem that patriarchy and matriarchy are a lot like a fire.
    A fire is started on kindling and then larger bits of wood. As the wood is consumed the fire grows brighter, eventually the fire reaches its apex and the amount of wood left to consume isn’t enough to sustain it, the fire burns out leaving nothing but ashes where, at some point, a new fire is lit.
    You can’t build a civilization without patriarchy. You can’t build a matriarchy without a civilization. The consumptive power of the matriarchy will eventually hit critical mass and totally burn out and on and on and la di da.
    As the sometimes good and the sometimes terrible REM said: It’s the end of the world and I feel fine.

    1. “It’s the end of the world and I feel fine.”
      Is the idea to keep partying in your manor until they come to take you to the guillotine ?
      One day I will convert you to my way of not giving a flying frack.

      1. Sounds pretty good to me and the guillotine is about as clean a death as a man can ask for. That said, I think the idea is more about not idealizing something that is in the past or could be in the future and living the life we have been given.
        We have all been dealt a fairly decent hand to play. We could wish it was a better hand. We could think back to a time when better hands existed. Probably better to just ante up and play our cards though. Seeing as we have no other option, lets play them well.

        1. It’s not really the past that was better. This world was always shit. It was the principles rulling the past that were and still are infinitely better. Times change but principles are eternal.
          Nothing stops us to get back to these principles, the same way nothing stops people who desire to wear clothes from the 50s to pull them off and start a new fashion trend.
          Reaching back to the past gives us more cards to play.

        2. Yes, the same way one cannot say “Poland is better than Norway”. There are some great things and some terrible things about each country. Just as the past had some awesome things going for it, but also lacked air conditioning, jet air travel, and the internet..

        3. But the general cyclical nature of humanity does prevent us. We can, individually, live by which principles we like. There may be some consequences, but for the most part that is fine. I live by principles not indicated by the current day. But the fact remains that the prevalent zeitgeist will, in many ways, control the field we are playing on.
          The world is, in its current state, that which it can be. It will change, one way or another, as it always has. That said, it really isn’t all that bad. Like you said, it was always shit …. but our shit isn’t as terrible as a lot of people make it seem I think.

        4. The terribleness of our shit resides in the fact that it isn’t that terrible. It’s insidious. People our just to lazy to fight it.
          It’s comfortable and sell us dreams while eating us from within. With the technology it has at its disposal, it will attack us at some deep anthrolopogical level that no other shit ever managed to reach in history. Our shit is very shitty, just not in a material way.

        5. Yes. That is exactly it. This is the insulation that the modern world has from all out revolution. Despite your belief in its insidiousness, you must admit it is fairly brilliant.
          As long as people are kept entertained and comfortable there is no amount they will not suffer.
          Yes, our souls are paying the price for our material comfort. But, like the 50’s clothing you mentioned we can wear, we can nourish our souls should we chose to even if it isn’t popular or even if it gets mocked.
          The way society has created a simulacrum of wealth to insulate the peasant class from rebelling is, quite frankly, a most ingenious bit of social evolution.
          True, this will cause huge and irreparable problems and what it will lead to I can scarcely imagine, but, and not to put too fine a point on it,

        6. Agreed – I love the conveniences of modern society, but it’s the culture that I’m really honed in on here.
          The culture and economy need to become more patriarchal

        7. I suspect there is a fair part of people’s wishful thinking that keeps them in check too.
          If you think you can become a fat cat you will protest less at immoral methods current fat cats use to enrich themselves etc.
          The thing where at first some people made it big quickly in business during e industrial revolution, now we have YouTube and Instagram celebrities and Zuckerberg etc.

        8. Agreed. Especially if you can do it in air conditioning, half drunk, well fed, with an infinite amount of free porn and a big screen tv

        9. Most politicians have realized, by this point, that they can do whatever they want as long as the impacts are felt beyond their deaths, or to a point where no one remembers or cares who they were, or how they sold everyone down the river.

        10. Still better than electric, a car crash, a gut wound or slowly dying while shitting yourself in an old age home

        11. Don’t disagree. Alzheimers terrifies me, but sometimes I wonder if I’d prefer it to the horror of being conscious as I die,

        12. I’ve said for a long time that I’ll take the dementia as long as I am so fucking totally checked out that I am almost happy with it.

        13. I think I would take a very very large dosage of Morphine over guillotine. Having a living head for 45 seconds without the ability to breath or scream sounds really really really shitty.

        14. Maybe a mix of the two would be best. Large dose of morpjine would too often result in waking up in a hospital with the facepalm from hell

        1. By the lords of Kobol another BSG fan ! I always say if you want to see where we are heading as a society watch the hugely under-rated prequel Caprica, Ronald D Moore is quite the prophet ..

  6. This is a topic that we’ve discussed before and this article seems to support many of our assertions.
    Decadence breeds complacency and ultimately reliance on others to supply our wants and needs. I would say we fall squarely in the dependence stage right now and are on the cusp of bondage, depending on how future events unfold. Once the nation declines to a low enough point or something catastrophic happens, we should (hopefully) turn the corner and begin focusing on the truly important things for our nation.

    1. Not just that, with any luck the useless eaters will also go the way of the dodo when things change. That would be glorious. Too bad there won’t be any of them left to say ‘I told you so’ to…

  7. Though the article is enjoyable, this is not, as the author asserts, how anthropologists believe cultures evolve. For one, there is no reference to any theoretical model common to anthropology, ie historical partiularism, multilinear evolutionism, etc, nor to any of the thinkers who developed these models, esp. before everything went to hell in the postmodern era. Nor is there anything really recognizable anthropological terminology or much in the way of evidence archaeological, cultural, or physical. The Tytler cycle cited at the end is interesting but again not standard equipment. This reads more like an faq for the game Civilization…I would be curious to see the sources.

    1. I think you bring up good points, but this is generally how civilizations evolve.
      Obviously I can’t go extremely in depth, because it’s a 2500 word article not a 30,000 word essay, though.

  8. Some anthropologists proposed that excitation of Neanderthals happened because men and women failed to acquire specialised roles

    1. Some anthropologist would propose that to try to feed the narrative that women don’t have a natural role to serve and take care of the man and bare children and raise children. Its Hogwash.

      1. More likely the Neanderthal chicks married homo sapien men because they were sexier and they probably killed most of the Neanderthal men anyway, but they were genetically incompatible and suffered poor fertility rates and miscarriages.
        History is repeating itself, of course. Contraception and abortion is the end of homo sapiens this time. A new species will emerge from the ruins of humanity that rejects these behaviours and all associated behaviours… and by the gods they’ll be a fanatic fucking species.

        1. When most human tribes destroy other tribes, they carry off the vanquished’s women. So we’re not really disagreeing.

        2. Actually that is correct, modern (Caucasian) humans have Neanderthal DNA in them. Though it probably was mutual and not just Neanderthal Females + Sapien males.

        3. I thought you were a creationist?
          I got the idea from a lion + tiger = liger. The liger isn’t a functional animal, though. It’s a genetically lost creature, because its parent species are just genetically too far apart (but not too far to make reproduction impossible).
          I imagine homo sapiens and Neanderthals faced the same problem if they happened to suddenly cross paths. Like the liger, a homo sapien + Neanderthal was probably at some sort of a disadvantage. In fact, the genetic complication may have made his birth impossible to begin with.
          However, the high sex drive of homo sapien men probably ensured that they’d continue to seek out and fuck Neanderthal females irrespective of the lack of healthy births that followed.
          I hypothesise that it wasn’t the other way around (Neanderthal men fucking homo sapien females) simply because homo sapiens were the victors.
          Simply put, whoever had the highest fertility rate always wins in the long term. If men are the masters of our species (to the relative extent of leadership that they are), then it makes sense that it was men who were taking homo sapien wives PLUS Neanderthal concubines to contribute to the end of the Neanderthal species and not the other way around, because it was men who were obviously on the reproductive top of the hierarchy…
          … just as Mongoloid (specifically Arab) and Negro men are on top today in comparison to Caucasians.

      2. This is another theory, and the two are compatible: maybe Neanderthals were weaker because they missed the succesful model of family here called “patriarchical”.

        1. From what I recall, Neanderthals were predicted as reproducing more slowly than Sapiens, and were supposedly mobbed out.
          Boy, that has some current parallels, doesn’t it?

    2. What basis would they have for that? the males were certainly larger, they would have certainly of been doing the hunting. We know for certain that they were at least partially absorbed into humans. Caucasians are about 4% Neanderthal.

  9. I enjoyed reading this.
    We all know that security + prosperity breed idleness. I would define idleness as leftover time not used for basic survival, reverence of deity, and propagation of the species.
    My question—why do we think we are so busy? Our Busyness (read: idleness) is the problem. What should the youth be encouraged to do in a first world society?

    1. The youth should be encouraged to play sports, go hunting, and do somewhat dangerous activities, so that they develop more masculine characteristics.
      Just a program like this would fix most of our problems eventually (with the younger generations growing up more masculine).

      1. But that stuff is boring as shit.
        My feminist single mother actually did take me to an archery club when I was 14. Boring. I ended up trying to steal the money from their office to buy marijuana, and my mother realized and never took me back.
        What I needed back then was a father to give me direction. Without dad, no amount of “masculine” activities can help a boy…

  10. Not sure how comfortable I am with the word ‘evolution’ here.
    Sure there are pressures working in the direction of matriarchy, as though it were an a natural ‘evolution’, but that kind of presumes that the surface politics reflects inexorable lower level forces, productive, economic and historical forces that are simply going to do there stuff regardless. Well that might be the case, but there’s also a whole bunch of people, institutions, organisations etc, working towards this self-same ‘great work’ that we’re seeing ‘evolve’ all around us, and they are absolutely committed to persuading us all that this where they want us to go, is a natural development – hence the word evolution – which is a word with some ‘normative’ force. I would say if you don’t like the way the world is evolving, stop regarding it as ‘evolving’ and start arguing that it is being ‘changed’. Dis-indoctrinat yourself from this whole historicist bullshit that we’ve been sucking on since Hegel and Marx decided to rape our minds. Fuck evolution. Be a creationist with respect to what you would have come about, because evolution is nothing more than a consumer product packaging the Will of others. People change the world, nothing else

    1. Large Comet or meteorite impacts have larger impact on changing the world than people do…
      Otherwise I largely agree.

  11. Let me preface this by saying I don’t know a lick about economics or the intricacies of how money moves, so if any of what I’m about to say/ask seems outlandish, refer back to this ha
    Anyway… anytime I hear “invest now while you can” or “save now for retirement while you can” I always get a little leery. It just seems odd to give my money to a system that most agree is on it’s way out.
    If shit really does hit the fan, and I have most of my money stored in banks, couldn’t they just take it and do what they want with it say “tough luck, that’s how it works”?
    Or what if shit gets so bad that money becomes meaningless… no value? Other than setting aside some dough for a car (in case my current one breaks down), I’m just not sure where I should be putting my money these days.

    1. Investing money doesn’t equal putting it in bonds, stocks or bank portfolios. It also means buying a house or condo to rent out, or buying land, gold, heck anything you think will be worth more later or bring an income that you buy for that purpose only, is an investment.

      1. Gold is the safest way to store money long-term, but it generates little profit because of its stability

    2. Our basic system of economics is not on it’s way out at all. Anyways, even if it did collapse, that money will be useless, so it’s not like the bank would have a reason to take it. As for investing, San Francisco real estate is one of the best investments you can make, quite expensive, but it has steadily gone up throughout the last 50 years with no reason to stop. and if you want to take something more risky but much cheaper, you can buy a fairly large Detroit house for a thousand dollars (needs renovations of course) http://auctions.buildingdetroit.org/Home
      Cars are a horrible investment unless you are going for extremely good gas milage. They require constant maintenance and fuel, having the ability to live close enough to walk, bike, or ride public transportation to work is a much better investment.

  12. I think another way patriarchy lead to it’s own demise is the way it overreacted to none conformity at certain times. There have always been a minority of people who don’t fit the general pattern of gender characteristics. When patriarchy was strong it could tolerate these exceptions hence villages would have an occasional ‘wise woman’ who had rejected marriage and become a healer, medieval guilds would have a small number of women who had an aptitude for a certain trades and effeminate men could be viewed as entertainers and figures of fun rather than as threats to the order. But in later times childless women were viewed as unnatural or even witches, laws were passed banning the tiny number of women with desire and aptitude for science to even attempt to pursue these careers and effeminate and gay men were persecuted and legislation passed against their sex acts that once would have been viewed as private. Basically they were unnecessarily turned into victims which gave them strength in the long run and exoticised their quirks helping to swell the numbers of habits that would probably have remained a very small minority if left in peace.

    1. ‘left in peace’…. then why are the using gay pride parades to shove it in your faces? and targeting Christian bakeries…..wtf? It’s clear they want more than to be ‘left in peace’, they are antagonistic and subversive.

      1. I said ‘if’ they had been left in peace. They weren’t – hence the gay pride. Try reading properly if you’re capable. Probably too late now to turn back the clock but I stand my the fact that the patriarchs made a rode for their own back by the unnecessary persecution of a tiny number a gays and unconventional women.

        1. women didn’t ‘rise up’, men allowed them the right to vote. the same reason Somalia doesn’t have feminism. without white men around to create civilization, it’s not safe for women. Globalists are simply using gays and females, and muslims, to attack nationalist white men. it’s not like gays and women took anything by force.

        2. in any case, the ‘liberation’ is going very badly because the white race is being wiped off the earth due to low birthrates. liberating women will be the end of the white race and probably 1st world civilization. muslims and Mexicans breed like rabbits and they lack the organizational skills white countries have.

        3. Is that a ‘bad’ thing though? Is it a bad thing if civilizations rise and fall, races live and die, or is it just the nature of life?

        4. whites invent modern medicine, air travel, and most every other modern convenience. unless you want Somalia and Mexicans to take the lead in humanity lol

  13. I was listening to RTL France and you can’t imagine how leftist they are. There was this woman on a phone call complaining on how there are allegedly very few CAC 40 female CEOs and I posted in their comment section saying “here is why” and a link to this article. It got promptly deleted. LOL

  14. “Barbarianism is the natural state of mankind. Civilization is unnatural. It is the whim of circumstance. And barbarianism must ultimately triumph”
    Robert E. Howard
    Barbarians like Isis or others, do not give a damn about the feelings of our ultra protected women and their fan boys. In fact, they will be the first ones to run and to pay with blood for they mental weakness.
    A movie that had a tremendous influence on me since a child is the “Quest for fire”. It is realistic, violent, real…and it shows, as the post reflects, how life was though and death was just a corner away for our ancestors. Without male protection, women and society would be fucked.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2oX_eLwFXc

    1. “With male protection, women would be fucked”.. never a truer word spoken. And quite literally, as a quick perusal of, say, the Old Testament would demonstrate.

  15. Feminist: Biology divided a complete/whole individual into two opposite halves/sexes based in equality. MADNESS.
    Reasonist: Biology separated a complete/whole individual into two different portions/sexes based in functionality.
    Feminist: Women are equal to men and can have as much sex as they want. Don’t be sexist. MADNESS.
    Reasonist: Sex is an emotionally submissive act for women (contrary to men) and they should be very picky. Otherwise their brain becomes a hysterical mess of attention whoring. Good luck finding a slut with a brain.
    Feminist: We believe in equality by playing the victim card and demanding/manipulating you to be controlled by us. MADNESS.
    Reasonist: We believe in self-improvement via self-control, by adapting to the circumstances no matter the odds.
    Unknown to feminism, it is playing the role of patriarchy’s trojan horse, degrading the human society back to an animal one. Won’t be at all surprised if that is where this all ends up.

  16. This Article forgot one thing reproducing wasn’t the only reason the women were protected,the raised children of which mainly the sons and their wife would take care of both the father and mother once they were old so it was a need not a choice

  17. I agreed with everythign up until the “town drunk” theory.
    This is what really happens. The women always take their cues from the men. They are passive, objects, that which is acted upon. The men are the actors.
    Before the town became affluent the men had a choice: support one another and succeed together, sabotage each other and remain weak. Most third world countries are the result of choice #2.
    Those villages that consistently picked choice #1 tended to deal with all challenges effectively. Earthquake? Let’s build better houses. Not enough food? We act with integrity and respect the property rights of each man. Savages and hoodlums attacking? Let’s get the boys together and put those bastards down.
    Fun fact, before Alexander took Persia and slapped her around like a 20$ crack whore, the Persian king at the time was the result of a massive Games of Thronesy melee that resulted in all of his close relatives including the previous two more legitimate kings, being dead. Meaning, no one felt like fighting for the son of a bitch, and all the capable people were dead.
    Back to our townspeople. Now the town has done all right, they’ve been honest, they’ve been loyal, they’ve acted with forethought and integrity. And all that hard work has paid off.
    Now that all the old challenges are gone there is the same choice as always. Support one another or cockblock each other. The town merchant, the blacksmith, the drunk, whatever, all these asshole have to make the choice. And when they decide “fuck these assholes, I don’t need them all that much” and start cheating and deceiving each other, it carries over to their daughters.
    You see, it is precisely when men decide that the other men are expendable that we run into trouble.
    The daughters see that their fathers despise the other men. And so they start to despise them.
    What are daughters for? Daughters are for giving wives to the sons of your brother. It is your act of compassion on the other men. They are there to serve a man. That is their job, that is what they do. They serve a man by tending his needs as well as bearing and raising his children. That is their job.
    When a gamma faggot gets up and decides to sabotage all the other men, he doesn’t do it by poisoning the local well, or by taking up arms against them. He doesn’t, because he is not only malicious, but a complete and total coward. No, instead he does something much more clever. He white knights.
    You see, he cannot take you on directly, he wants the support of the entire community behind him when he stabs you in the back. That way, even if you give him the ass kicking he so very much deserves, he can crawl away and pretend to be a hero. He did it for the helpless women, he did it for love.

    Look at that asshole. Because he needed to stick his dick in another mans wife (a form of fucking other men), he got every man and child in his city butchered, all the women raped, his brother dragged around like a sack of meat and the damn place burnt to the ground. Does he regard that as a loss? FUCK NO. In that asshole’s eyes, every last one of his competitors is dead – which makes Troy’s destruction a victory.
    He gets to rule over the surviving men, he fucks all the remaining women (it’s for survival purposes of course), and on top of that he even managed to kill the best of the warriors, including having successfully gotten his brother killed.
    He managed to do all that single handedly and not one person realized he did it, he probably wasn’t even aware of it.
    And that is classic gamma. It is what happens when things get just a little too good. And a miserable narcissistic coward can’t stand being at the bottom of the hierarchy.
    That’s an extreme example, but it shows the principle of how things break down. Matriarchy is just another gamma ploy. Go to all the women, tell them they are abused, get them to march up and down. You might say “but all the feminists are still fucking the alpha’s, in fact, more so because they don’t want the betas!” Exactly. They are fukcing the only men who have the wits to pound the gamma faggot into the ground. So the alphas are content. The beta males who were the competitors of the gamma are shit out of luck, and so the gamma can snag up free pussy.
    They do this with women, they do it with property, they do it with money, they do it with resources, it’s all the same thing.
    But this only works when the alphas have stopped caring about their brother betas. An alpha who sees what is happening and cares about his brother stops it cold.
    This only works when the betas have stopped acting with integrity towards their brothers. When the beta males work together, supporting each other honorably, they can always make do with a lesser alpha who is a brother. And thus they put a stop to the nonsense cold.
    When things get cushy enough, the necessity to act with integrity lessens, and so people can choose to get greedy and dishonest. And that is how it breaks down, that is how you end up with “matriarchies”.

    1. YES YES YES. Alphas must stop the madness at the top in solidarity. The betas and others must do their part and continue to support each other.

    2. I am not sure about the context of the scene from the movie, who is the guy who gets a tonne of people killed?

      1. Paris. He flees with Helen, who is the wife of Menelaus, King of Sparta, to the city of Troy. Paris is a price of the city and his father, King Priam is the leader of Troy.

  18. Im psychic myself but I will soon fall prey to the many many concussions and mental trauma from swimming in the Saint Johns river with aligators,snakes,sharks, gar and god knows what to fighting the local black kids and always out running them to dodging terrorists in Africa I am fucking tired of conflict.
    But I won’t stop till it kills me.
    We need peace all around and a slow down of destruction in all forms.

    1. When you deal with paranormal shit on the norm with witnesses it gets not only scary but it drains your energy to predict your own future in dreams to then defending against things you cannot understand.

      1. One good example I give 1 shit about you believing is I am immune to bigfoots stun ability.
        Females can sub-sonic stun creatures with smaller cranial mass and the males can emit stronger stuns.
        I am immune to all of them.

  19. I am being serviced by the federal gov but they do not understand me.
    I scare them or at least am a freak show. My brain does this not me….I am a loving member or humanity…I never asked for this.

  20. I am geared for space travel not merely next valley or Uncanny valley which I mastered long ago.
    WAR

  21. I spent my youth in Ft Jackson SC relaxin jackson. Then i went to fight my ass off for what the future held.
    I am not injured rather badly. You guys think before you act for farks sake.

  22. For those who believe, what this scenario doesnt take into account is the subversion from the devil, leading man away from virtue towards degeneracy.

  23. The article leaves out the “men invade, women welcome” aspect. As seen by women leaders like Merkel, they transform society to hasten its own demise. Not to mention examples of feminists who hide their very own rapes to shelter the invaders. The goal being to reward strength and virility in the evolutionary breeding stock.
    If men do not impregnate their women, then the tribe dies as well. Women see their weak men GTOW or devolving into weaklings or gays, unable or unwilling to procreate – so the women choose the alternate path, with great enthusiasm.
    In essense, they say, “If you don’t fuck me, I am happy to let strong Mahmud rape the shit out of me… and my genes and the next tribe lives on…”
    Mahmud doesn’t GAF about the rules and laws and threats of imprisonment.
    Women want and need to be controlled. They lie when they demand more rights. It is simply a shit test, it is phony. But we gave in to it. Now after reams of laws that promote hypergamy and disincentives to male investment, the only path left is violent invasion and rape, which women have chosen, willfully chosen. If we had halted the regression, we would have demonstrated worthiness to females to pass on our genetic stock. Instead the invaders demonstrate their worthiness by taking without fear or remorse, impregnating by force of rape, and a propensity to dominate and subjugate women. Chicks simply cannot resist.

  24. Lots of fine nuggets in this article. You can tell the author had a thorough inner conversation going before filtering and finalizing this difficult piece. Cool to occasionally see the balance of dialogue playing out in parentheses like this one:
    “So, this culture of patriarchy, that values facts more than feelings
    (although it obviously still values feelings, it isn’t completely
    heartless), would be passed down through the generations.”
    Good one.

  25. There is no breaking cycles. The entire universe runs on them. Sure enough you can slow them down and make them less impactful, but ultimately they either persist or become part of a bigger, longer and slower cycle.
    It’s a good thing too. The alternative would be cultural stagnancy, which would impede progress even more than the cycle of decadence and resurgence does.
    Given a sufficiently long timeline, all systems eventually break down.

    1. One way to break the cycle is to always be the invader. A clan could internally cycle out the weak.

    2. Except that it isn’t a cycle. What is an example of feminism ever happening in the past. Oh wait, it hasn’t.

        1. Yes, and at no point did the author ever cite an example of this happening before. Based off the pictures, he may have vaguely been talking about the Western Half of the Roman Empire, but there was no such thing even close to feminism their.

  26. You forgot the time before protecting women. Men did not originally protect women like they do now. Man tries to kill a woman’s offspring, she offers her rump he mates losing the energy to carry out his task, women survived by offering their bodies to not get killed or to be fed by food men got from the hunt. Stories of Cronos eating his own young wasn’t such a shocking story for people of that time. Fathers killing, eating and selling their own young for other goods was the norm then.
    Also there is no such thing as patriarchy, patriarchy is just an early form of matriarchy where men are at least given the proper privileges to do their jobs. I would call patriarchy, pre-matriarchy. The very feeling to preserve, value highly and protect women stems from a very feminine imperative and from feelings not facts. The barbarians you mention live in an anarchy with faint traces of pre-matriarchy. Anarchy is truly fully envisioned in a masculine sense devoid of feminine feelings.
    True males do not care what happens to females their offspring and the future of humanity. It was a bunch of old weak male farts that have lost a high degree of their male spirit (testosterone) that succumbed to these feelings of having to prepare and provide for their women and young. Just look at the most red pill of men become a mushy white knight when he begins to raise a daughter.
    The provider role is indicative of becoming more of a beta male. As far as providing goes, men used food and resources to bait women to have sex with them in the past jus like catching a wild animal, it had nothing to do with long lasting love and committment. Before pre-matriarchy (before men worshipped women), men treated women like mere property.
    I mean seriously men that gave a woman near equal status to themselves for just sleeping with them were the first beta males. I for the life of me don’t understand why a king would make a woman he slept with a queen and give her a better quality of life, just toss that woman back from where she came from.

    1. It really isn’t patriarchy or matriarchy. It’s just sexual dimorphism. Patriarchy also means elder rule, which means the feminist use of it is even less relevant.
      As for kings giving queens power, it wasn’t necessarily that he actually gave her power. King Ferdinand of Aragon was also king Castile Jure uxoris, they really merged their power rather than him giving her power.

  27. Patriarchy never emerged as a cultural thing. it didn’t really even evolve, unless you’re talking about a very, very distant evolutionary past.
    Patriarchy is simply males being in charge. In almost all species, the males are dominant.
    They’re dominant because they’re bigger and stronger.
    Among Homo Sapiens, in very nearly all times and places, males were the dominant sex. Simply by their nature. being bigger and stronger. The bigger and stronger sex being in charge was to the obvious advantage of the species and the sex. It obviously lent itself to progress.
    But going back before Homo Sapiens, our ancestors were patriarchal. males were bigger and stronger, even more so than today, and were the dominant sex.
    Our ape men ancestors were the same.
    Our ape ancestors before them were too (but again, with even bigger differences in size and strength between males and females).
    Male primates are, as far as I’m aware, always bigger and stronger than females. Whenever any sex is bigger and stronger than another, it will be dominant.
    So, for millions of years, tens of millions of year, simply by virtue of their nature, males were dominant.
    Even once men created civilization, they remained in charge. With rare exception, males were the dominant sex, everywhere, until around a hundred years ago in the West.
    So from tens of million years into the past, until a hundred years ago, males, men, were the dominant sex.
    And if you believe in evolution at all, you have to believe that we do have a nature, and that it was formed through evolution. And that since we survived, and in fact, advanced, that nature was a positive force.
    In terms of the sexes, and males being the dominant sex, they obviously evolved as the dominant sex. And were, for almost very nearly all of human, hominid, and primate history.
    At times, mostly only in civilized societies, they did cease to be dominant. But those societies were either in decline already, or shortly came to be in decline. Ancient Sparta gave women more and more rights, and then ceased to be a major power. Aristotle noted this.
    The Persians, once the greatest Empire in the world, apparently fell into the same trap. They became less aggressive, less dominant. Granted women more and more power.
    Aristocratic France gave women more and more rights, through the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. At the same time the male aristocrats became less and less masculine. We all know what happened next.
    There’s some tribe in Africa where the women are in charge. they live in mud huts.
    Civilizations, in the beginning, are always fiercely masculine and patriarchal. As they decline, and become decadent, they become more and more matriarchal. or in modern terms, feminist.
    They upset the natural order, emasculate men, decline, and then collapse.
    And in their wake a new, fiercely masculine culture rises up.
    Look at what’s happening with the decline of the West, and the rise of Islam. A matriarchal society is importing violent, aggressive patriarchs. The matriarchal society has low birth rates. Working women have much fewer children on average. the patriarchal Islamic society has lots of children, though. Through demographics alone they will, one day, win.
    The West ended up falling into the same trap of every great society. It became powerful, and wealthy, and peaceful, as a result of strength, and conquest – but then peace made it weak. Without struggling, warfare, conquest, and so on, men become weak and emasculated. Victims of their own strength. The real tragedy isn’t men giving power to women. it’s losing their masculinity in the first place.
    Women are as they are. They naturally want more, and want power, but when they get it, we can see the results.
    They are also naturally unhappy with effeminate, do-gooder men. They consciously think they want men who do as they say, but unconsciously they’re disgusted by such men. They view them as weak and effeminate. And such men are.
    The role of women in evolution, in natural selection, is favoring strong men, and dismissing weak ones. Western men, who have become complacent, and deferential to women – have ceased to be dominant – are ultimately an evolutionary dead end. Given the choice, women will always prefer strong men.
    Feminists endlessly attack Western society, despite its submissiveness. In fact, the more submissive Western men are, and the more they grant women, the more their women complain. Its, again, because what they’re really disgusted by isn’t Western male chauvinism, but Western male submissiveness. The more they can get away with, the more contempt they have for the men who give into their demands.
    Feminism is a massive shit test that Western men in the main have failed resoundingly.
    But note how they almost never, by comparison, criticize Islamic patriarchy. Deep down they have an affinity for it. Which is a good thing. Because in another hundred years, or so, that will be the new order of the West. And, despite themselves, women will, in a basic, biological way, be contented.
    Western Civilization however will be dead.

  28. Patriarchy never emerged as a cultural thing. it didn’t really even evolve, unless you’re talking about a very, very distant evolutionary past.
    Patriarchy is simply males being in charge. In almost all species, the males are dominant.
    They’re dominant because they’re bigger and stronger.
    Among Homo Sapiens, in very nearly all times and places, males were the dominant sex. Simply by their nature. being bigger and stronger. The bigger and stronger sex being in charge was to the obvious advantage of the species and the sex. It obviously lent itself to progress.
    But going back before Homo Sapiens, our ancestors were patriarchal. males were bigger and stronger, even more so than today, and were the dominant sex.
    Our ape men ancestors were the same.
    Our ape ancestors before them were too (but again, with even bigger differences in size and strength between males and females).
    Male primates are, as far as I’m aware, always bigger and stronger than females. Whenever any sex is bigger and stronger than another, it will be dominant.
    So, for millions of years, tens of millions of year, simply by virtue of their nature, males were dominant.
    Even once men created civilization, they remained in charge. With rare exception, males were the dominant sex, everywhere, until around a hundred years ago in the West.
    So from tens of million years into the past, until a hundred years ago, males, men, were the dominant sex.
    And if you believe in evolution at all, you have to believe that we do have a nature, and that it was formed through evolution. And that since we survived, and in fact, advanced, that nature was a positive force.
    In terms of the sexes, and males being the dominant sex, they obviously evolved as the dominant sex. And were, for almost very nearly all of human, hominid, and primate history.
    At times, mostly only in civilized societies, they did cease to be dominant. But those societies were either in decline already, or shortly came to be in decline. Ancient Sparta gave women more and more rights, and then ceased to be a major power. Aristotle noted this.
    The Persians, once the greatest empire in the world, apparently fell into the same trap. They became less aggressive, less dominant. Granted women more and more power.
    Aristocratic France gave women more and more rights, through the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. At the same time the male aristocrats became less and less masculine. We all know what happened next.
    There’s some tribe in Africa where the women are in charge. they live in mud huts.
    Civilizations, in the beginning, are always fiercely masculine and patriarchal. As they decline, and become decadent, they become more and more matriarchal. or in modern terms, feminist.
    They upset the natural order, emasculate men, decline, and then collapse.
    And in their wake a new, fiercely masculine culture rises up.
    Look at what’s happening with the decline of the West, and the rise of Islam. A matriarchal society is importing violent, aggressive patriarchs. The matriarchal society has low birth rates. Working women have much fewer children on average. the patriarchal Islamic society has lots of children, though. Through demographics alone they will, one day, win.
    The West ended up falling into the same trap of every great society. It became powerful, and wealthy, and peaceful, as a result of strength, and conquest – but then peace made it weak. Without struggling, warfare, conquest, and so on, men become weak and emasculated. Victims of their own strength. The real tragedy isn’t men giving power to women. it’s losing their masculinity in the first place.
    Women are as they are. They naturally want more, and want power, but when they get it, we can see the results.
    They are also naturally unhappy with effeminate, do-gooder men. They consciously think they want men who do as they say, but unconsciously they’re disgusted by such men. they view them as weak and effeminate. And such men are.
    The role of women in evolution, in natural selection, is favoring strong men, and dismissing weak ones. Western men, who have become complacent, and deferential to women – have ceased to be dominant – are ultimately an evolutionary dead end. Given the choice, women will always prefer strong men.
    Feminists endlessly attack Western society, despite its submissiveness. In fact, the more submissive Western men are, and the more they grant women, the more their women complain. It’s because what they’re really disgusted by isn’t Western male chauvinism, but Western male submissiveness. The more they can get away with, the more contempt they have for the men who give into their demands.
    Feminism is a massive shit test that Western men in the main have failed resoundingly.
    But note how they almost never, by comparison, criticize Islamic patriarchy. Deep down they have an affinity for it. Which is a good thing. Because in another hundred years, or so, that will be the new order of the West. And, despite themselves, women will, in a basic, biological way, be contented.
    Western Civilization however will be dead.

    1. Very good points on how patriarchal systems are not social constructs but rather, natural instinct and out default nature. It is matriarchy that is a social construct.

    2. Actually males have become bigger by height and mass due to better patrician. Men are also, still the dominant sex. The vast majority of politicians are male. The vast majority of Artists are male. The vast majority of innovators and business leaders are men.

  29. Good article, but I think it can be distilled down to a simple equation: Patriarchy is most likely when resources require physical to harvest them. The second a majority of people in any system can command resources without relying on physical strength, patriarchy begins to lose its value.Technology kills patriarchy

    1. Not really because men were needed for said technology. Technology is only a symptom and not a cause.

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  31. Most of the gender pay gap explanations focus on the fact that women spend less weekly hours at work and spend less years in the workforce. These choices often make our lives much better in terms of quality. Enjoying your daughters piano recital forms satisfying emotional bonds that last a life time whereas working till 10pm on that tender for 3 nights in a row earns you gratitude and respect when you’ve died.
    After compensating for the less time in the workforce and correcting for female choices in human contact areas there is still a pay and position gap. It is scientifically wrong to attribute this gap to male discrimination. If there was a great deal of high IQ talent wasted there would be high tier companies making massive profits using all female workforces.
    There is another explanation.
    15% of the population has an IQ greater than 115 only 33% female.
    9% of the population has an IQ greater than 120,
    2.9% of the population has an IQ greater than 130.
    0.25% of the population has an IQ greater than 145 only 10% female
    For IQ above 170 there are 30 males for every female.
    When young girls are IQ tested in school, they often outperform boys and they have of late vastly been outperforming boys at school leaving level leading to concerns that we are facing a dangerous collapse in males attending university.
    (possibly caused by boys starting school to early and a system set to pathologise boys)
    We follow a different trajectory. European Boys have puberty 2 years latter than girls. According to US National Institute of Mental Health’s Brain scans a 5 years of age a boy has the linguistic ability of a 3.5 year old girl.
    Something seems to happen in the adult male brain some years after puberty. Tests that showed school girls performing equally or better at leaving school then start showing some differences in adulthood.
    Dr Paul Irwin, a senior lecturer in Organisational Psychology at Manchester University has said there are twice as many men as women with an IQ above 120 and there are 30 times the number of men with an IQ of 170-plus as there are women.
    Other researchers have said that there ate twice as many men with an IQ above 115 and 10 times as many men as women with an IQ above 145. ( from the science versus feminism web site).
    The measurements are what they are.
    If there was this incredible number of women with IQ above 145 some companies would be rich exploiting their ability that is extremely serious talent.
    It’s possible that the explanation lies in the far greater competition males were subject to historically: our genome tells us that 80% of women succeed in reproducing but only 40% of men.
    If one applies Occam’s razor the explanation is probably biological.
    There is a rapidly declining number of women with IQ over 115 compared to men.
    We have not been discriminating against women.

      1. The correlation between high IQ scores and the following is extremely high
        1 school performance
        2 university performance
        3 future income level
        4 low crime rate
        5 marriage stability
        6 accident rate
        IQ tests work.

        1. Repeated Training on specific IQ tests marginally improves IQ scores. You might go from 120->130 you are not going to get to 150.
          Of course most people who undertake IQ tests don’t get to do them repeatedly. Allmost parties go in and are tested under the same conditions.
          IQ tests work. They have enormous predictive value. Herrenstein and Murrays Bell Curve is still 100% correct 20 years after its 1997 publication. So was Arthur Jensen who struggles to raise IQ ultimately lead him to conclude it wasn’t possible. You’ll find one of his heavier publications is called “bias in IQ testing” where he examines all the issues.
          Again, let me emphasise again,the distribution of IQ between males and females is vastly different.

  32. A very well-laid explanation of the growth and degeneracy of society. Indeed, forgetting the danger and having no trials, no ordeals, no external pressures is what turns the young into spoiled brats and especially the female.
    But there is something essential missing here. Your history is a purely naturalistic one. There is no God, no churches, no place for spirituality. Only struggles for resources and power. And thus your historical model has one big flaw, it speaks of history as if the Middle Ages had never existed and as if the big traditional civilizations had no spirituality. This is false: even the late and degenerate Roman Empire still had some notion of transcendence.
    Perhaps the fatal degeneracy process also happens because people forget about God. If there is no God, what remains is particular interests, divisive things. When the spiritual authority disappears, what remains is political struggles and business, and society starts degenerating from the warrior-king to the merchant and from the merchant to the slave. Read René Guénon.

  33. Brilliant article! One comment I frequently make in this context is “In the not too distant future, books will be written detailing the fall of western civilization. Chapter one will be “girl power””. I truly believe this.

  34. It used to been a covenant relationship
    God takes responsibility, man follows God
    Man takes responsibility, women follow man
    Mentor takes care of student, student folloows mentor.
    Now we’re all in relationship with our tech gadgets and social media

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