In the past year, one of the biggest trends in the alternative media has been the rise of female personalities who advocate traditional values and right-wing politics. Figures such as Brittany Pettibone, Lauren Southern, Faith Goldy, Tara McCarthy and countless others have won dedicated followings thanks to their combination of nationalist talking points and attractive looks. Some have argued that this is a good thing, since it is impossible for any movement to achieve success if only men support it.
While I am not opposed to women participating in politics per se, the reality is that the majority of these “tradthots” are wolves in sheep’s clothing. Beyond being unoriginal and bland, tradthots like McCarthy, Southern, and more appear to be subverting nationalism for their own ends. They are converging the alternative media into leftism, no different than what SJWs have done to video games and other industries.
While some alternative media figures such as ROK publisher Roosh V and Daily Stormer publisher Andrew Anglin are trying to push back against the tradthot invasion, the number of white knights and beta orbiters defending them has reached critical mass.
The best you can say about many of these women is that they are looking to make money off of sexless chumps, but if you scratch the surface, a darker picture emerges.
Thot-Provoking Content
ROK readers and contributors are more aware than most that tradthots are not to be trusted. For example, some time ago, I was involved with a woman who called herself “alt right” and who claimed to want a traditional marriage, yet was also a bisexual alcoholic with a rep for cheating on her boyfriends. Following our breakup, she began dating a left-wing skinhead, then suddenly disavowed the alt right for being too pro-Trump and “anti-Semitic.”
The dirt that is now coming out on popular tradthots fits the same pattern. For example, it was recently revealed that Lauren Southern, darling of the alternative media, used to exclusively date a half-black man who voted for Trump. According to a friend who knew Southern when she was younger, she went psycho stalker after one of her boyfriends dumped her for a brown girl, then became rabidly anti-Muslim/anti-immigrant in response.
In her book Barbarians: How the Baby Boomers, Immigration, and Islam Screwed My Generation, Southern brags about her previous life as a glorified camwhore, claiming that “I don’t masturbate to anime characters. I dress up like them and guys masturbate to me.”
It’s clear that Southern views nationalists in the same way she viewed anime fans: suckers to make money off of. She’s also incredibly sensitive to critics who ask her why she isn’t married yet despite being a traditionalist. In a recent video, “Why I’m Not Married,” Southern tried to rationalize her lifestyle by claiming that her current work is too “important” for her to settle down. She also banned numerous people (including me) who criticized her, even if their criticism was polite and reasonable.
Tara McCarthy is a more blatant example of how tradthots are feminists in disguise. A YouTube host and podcaster, McCarthy recently commented on Twitter that “the Alt Right is not about fighting feminism, it’s about taking control of our demographics,” ignoring the fact that feminism is a major reason why white birthrates are in freefall. After ROK publisher Roosh highlighted her idiocy, McCarthy began whining about how she was being “harassed” online, just like feminists do:
McCarthy also has a history of degeneracy and rapid ideological shifts. As recently as last year, she ran a YouTube channel called Think Vegan, where she espoused socialist and feminist views. No one goes from being a socialist to alt right in that short a period of time unless they’re a grifter or insane. McCarthy also identified as an antinatalist and proudly declared that she would never have children, a major red flag as all of the antinatalist women I’ve encountered (admittedly only three) were batshit insane.
To make matters worse, McCarthy used to be known among her friends for her bisexuality and her hedonistic lifestyle, and enjoyed sleeping with married men (click to expand):
These are far from the worst things that tradthots have done, not even close. I’m privy to a lot of information about the alt lite’s/alt right’s inner workings.
Other, lesser-known tradthots such as Lauren Rose exhibit many of the same issues as Southern and McCarthy: crypto-feminist views, shaming language, and crying about “harassment.” They are aided by white knights such as Culture of Critique author and boomer Kevin MacDonald and Nick J. Fuentes’ eternal second banana, James Allsup. While some tradthots can be successfully shamed into quitting (for example, as of this writing, Tara McCarthy has made her Twitter private and deleted most of her YouTube videos), the rot may be too deep to get them all out.
Say No To Findom Nationalism
For me, watching the tradthot infestation of the alt lite/alt right is depressing deja vu.
Several years back, I watched as the manosphere went down a similar path: “red pill women” suddenly started popping up everywhere, blogging about how much they enjoyed being traditional housewives cooking for their husbands and giving them blowjobs. To no one’s surprise, most of them turned out to be psychotic frauds. I even invented a blog written by a “red pill woman” in order to make fun of them and their pathetic male fans.
Like the manosphere before it, the rise of the tradthot has proven that most alt lite/alt right men are frauds themselves. Any man who claims to believe in nationalism and patriarchy would never get his political opinions from a promiscuous woman. As my friend the Bechtloff puts it, tradthots are nothing more than glorified findom.
Return of Kings is proud to be one of the few dissident outposts that is unabashedly anti-thot and pro-patriarchy. Unlike the tradthots and their male paypigs, when we say we’re about traditional masculinity and femininity, we mean it.
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Water is wet. This is predictable as fuck
Never trust a woman. Never.
this needs to be repeated 1000 times:
NEVER TRUST A WOMAN. NEVER!!
To coin a phrase “trust, but verify”
I always trust women.
I trust women to be women.
I trust their words bearing no weight.
I trust their looks having no longevity.
I trust their emotions to be like a feather in the wind.
Trust women.
Why are you linking to reddit and Southern Poverty Law Center atticles?
Cappy Clarey had warned about this many years ago and any man with a brain (and healthy sex life) knew this much. But still valuable to spread the word. Much more important than to neutralize the tradthots is to extinguish the white knighting instinct. and exposing these fraudulent gals is imperative for this.
the best part of this article though is the hidden clue about which tradthot had sex with the guy she was interviewing. well done Sir Forney.
If even some of the wealthiest, most handsome, most badass top-tier alphas can get cucked, what’s to stop the Altright from getting cucked? There has to be zero tolerance of THOTs.
the dirst is too much man, so basically the manosphere is fucked. Social media spoiled women. Go to the profile of any girl you know on Facebook. Click on her picture. How many likes? Usually, the number of likes is at least half the number of friends. Underneath you will also find many politically correct comments expressing great admiration towards her. The saddest comments are those coming from begging wannabe Romeos:
”You are perfect.”
”You are so cute.”
#girlpower
#beauty
#goddess
”Kill’em girl”
”Princess”
” Your eyes are amazing.”
”Your legs are extra-terrestrial.”
”I would do everything to be with you.”
”I can sense that you smell like roses from here.”
{Give me a break.}
As a result, the ego of the woman in question is boosted into the orbit. That’s why women spend so much time on Facebook and walk while texting on their phones. Just look around! You will see many girls holding iFones as metal detectors. And, boy, they are not looking for Pokemons! They are looking for validation and self-esteem boosters. Social media works great for this.
Back in the day, girls who were 4/10 knew it. Today, girls who are 4/10 think they are 7/10 thanks to the constant ego stimulation coming from the digital world.
This creates a big problem.
When women think too highly of themselves they want MORE and MORE and MORE. So you cant never have a honest discussion with a woman of your league, because she will have the high ground, because the moment you do it, there will be millions of beta orbiters waiting to give her attention, and she will believe that you are being mean if you disagree with something (something that is fucking nomral in every relationship) . It has happened to me, and I have seen it before with many guys.
I remember a time back in the 90s, early early 2000’s where it was considered taboo to use the internet and have a “profile” created on some kind of site. People would label you as a “recluse” “weirdo” “computer geek” “axe murderer”, etc. “Oh, you use the internet to get friends?” “Oh, you need the internet to find a date?”. Ooooh….you’re a loser!!!!.
Gosh, back then, if a portable computer existed that you could carry around and use outside, you would have been labeled super retard geek to stay away from. <—known today as the smart phone
Fast forward a decade and a half, and the same females that made it social taboo for someone to even know what the word “internet” even meant, are the same individuals obsessed with using computers/smart phones, creating profiles, dating and making friends via the computer.
Women are two-faced hypocritical entities that by God’s design are MEANT to be dominated over. We are living in a time of human history where white western civilization is under attack by jewish elites that have used their domination of banking to finance laws and government programs that steal men’s wealth and redistribute that wealth and additional rights to females so they can be whores and self absorbed paganists. Centuries ago, a female could not survive without a man therefore mating & dating was easy for any hard working man back then. Pray for the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart to happen soon, “Russia will spread her errors”. This is what has been happening over the past century, via marxism. Via jews. A time of peace will come soon. A time where women will be put back into their place where they belong.
The comment started good but turned to pure bullshit as soon as it veered into the crazyman territory of jewish conspiracies. Fuck me. Are there any normal people this side of the internet.
Look at the new black chick called Red Pill Black aka Candace Owens. She craves attention so much that she uses the uniqueness that she’s Black, and is Alt-Right.
Then there is Lee Ann Mcadoo from InfoWars. Looking at her Instagram posts, she’s dating a really ghetto (baggy saggy jeans, timbaland shoes) black dude.
These are all attention whores. I bet Lauren Southern and Faith Goldy will end up with some brown Muslim dudes.
I was hoping Faith Goldy was one of the “good ones” (as good a women can be that is – which isn’t much), as she seems to be a traditional old school hardcore catholic, married and I believe with children. But I wouldn’t be surprised for a second that she is just as thotty as the next ho.
Women will be women.
Very revealing facts that I didn’t know about these chicks. Damn… is there ANY endeavor that we can really trust ’em, besides child-rearing and making us sammiches?
You trust them to make you a sammich? Who do you think 99.9% of poisoners are? Ill make my own damn sammich, and then it will be done right and without any included surprises.
Nolagirl504 on youtube .. a Titty tattooed up slut married to a black dude while she drives around in a car hating her single mother
The thot from New Orleans! She is the worst. But isn’t she like Arab or something? No way that woman is White
She’s Italian . She also started asking for money on some other site , forgot the name . Another pretender trying to make money on MRAs
Ohhhhhh. Italian. Yeah. They did have quite the presence in New Orleans. Hard to tell them from Arabs sometimes.
Nollagirl504 – raised by her proud Italian/american grandfather (her mom was an uncaring slut apparently). So what does she do to respect him?…she marries a black dude and has kids that kill the lineage. Now she youtube vlogs how bad women behave (i guess she interacts with alot of black women now too).
Women are generally attracted to Alpha males. More black women voted for Trump than black males. Why? He is the biggest male with the biggest stick.
Obviously you did not read the exit polls. Black men voted for Hillary over Trump 82 – 13 with 5% voting for others. Black women voted for Hillary over Trump 94-4 with 2% voting for other candidates. You’ll never find a more reliable left wing voting base anywhere in the world than black American women.
Among minorities, it looks like Trump did better with black men relative to women, and Hispanic and Asian women relative to men (the women still voted more for Hillary but by smaller margins).
Yeah All 3 of them that show up to vote
If you want political change, support must be wider than a decent percentage of the male population. It’s a math problem, folks. Women make up a slight majority of the population. The New Right needs *some* women to buy in. The math is unforgiving.
That begs the question: are you willing to sacrifice what would be good in what will ultimately be a futile attempt to reach what is optimal?
Taking a position that Lauren Southern has flaws, ergo, she is “unqualified” to join an ideology is a foolish position and will be ultimately destructive. Odds are that no individual will hold beliefs or engage in behaviors that are identical to yours. These attitudes further paint the New Right as a fringe group which it absolutely is not. This plays right into the hands of the globalists and mainstream media.
And by the way, Lauren Southern is a beautiful woman. That alone helps our cause. Young people gravitate toward beauty and what’s hip. I want the New Right to be edgy and rebellious and attractive and fun, not a boys club that never has the numbers to actually WIN anything, politically. The SJWs have enthusiastically claimed they are all of the opposite–they’re politically correct and stifling and ugly and rigid.
We’re the ones who walk tall and live boldly. We’ve got reasonable libertarians, alt light, and alt right. And while we disagree on some matters, we know our core values: border security, limited government, constitutionalism, anti-globalism.
>White knighting
>Being masculine
Choose 1
Your definition of “White Knighting” must include everything from actual white knighting to simply speaking the truth, however unpleasant the truth sounds to you, personally.
If you’ve got a case to state, state it. Explain to me why you are willing to exclude people like Southern and, by default, permit the globalists to ultimately win?
Why is this sound reasoning?>
If you want political change, first you need to kill all your existing oppressors along with their entire families. Stalin, Pol Pot, Genghis Khan all knew this important fact.
If you let ANY of them live, they grow back like cancer.
First of all the “New Right” is merely a rebranding of the Israel-Firster neocon. It’s a collection of goons and boomers who wish they were cool but can’t ever be because they cannot internalize the red pill. Led by liars, shills, and probable intel assets. Anyone who wants to lump in with that gang of idiots can go right ahead.
Laura Southern has no beliefs or ideology, other than shekel grabbing. That’s the whole point. And she is not “beautiful” she’s a plain jane who enhances her appearance with bottle bleach and pancake makeup.
As for the rest of your screed, implying that any of us want to be a lolberg or a CivNat ZioCuck, you should probably lurk moar.
She’s “unqualified” because she’s a try-hard who hops on board whatever train looks like it might have some as-yet unexploited thirsty suckers on it. The her loyalty, and that of her ilk is limited to “Who’s paid into my Patreon lately?”.
” Young people gravitate toward beauty and what’s hip.”
And they bail as soon as things get hard. Anybody suckered into a cause by dreams of banging hotties because it are worse than useless, they’re active time and energy sinks.
“The New Right needs *some* women to buy in.”
Don’t know what this “New Right” is. Sounds very boomer to me. There are women who have bought into the dissident right, they’re just not trying to draw all the attention (and cash) to themselves like the thots mentioned above. Them we need not.
“The SJWs have enthusiastically claimed they are all of the opposite–they’re politically correct and stifling and ugly and rigid.”
Who gives a singular fuck what those ass-ugly, blue-haired shitskins have to say about anything? Their fervent projection means fuck all.
“I want the New Right to be edgy and rebellious and attractive and fun.”
Fuck me, you think this is the goddamn One Direction Fan Club of politics? Why don’t you just demand we make Poochie our mascot?
http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki/Poochie
All these women are ,,AFTER WALL,, time of their life.
So is Roosh. An old, used and abused cunt, who has fucked around all his life and now wants a “good girl”. The type he did nothing to deserve.
This batshit pathetic scum spreads his hatred of women and milks you of your hard-earned cash.
Just look at his videos. The epithome of worthlessness.
Your blatant envy of never being able to legitimately claim being a “good girl” is showing….
@Someone Actually, he never said he deserves shit…that is typically a virtue of women. He has even admitted in a video that as he gets older his ability to just go around and “bang” will fade. And all those women he was banging are in even more of a predicament than he is. If women were not such empowered whores, and marriage laws were not such a joke…than guess what? Men like Roosh wouldn’t exist…OMG!!!
“This batshit pathetic scum spreads his hatred of women and milks you of your hard-earned cash.” Ahh, he is pathetic? What about all the whores he fucked (aka, typical western women). Milking us of money?
What money? Hey, he is not like the feminists who constantly want more government help, billions to create “pro-women” agencies, and who supports the garbage family courts.
Funny, because it seems like you are just projecting like most females do.
wes the great, true, game is a modern male adaptation, if women were not so entitled (and men werent white knights) there wouldnt be a necessity for it. Yesterday I saw a video on Jewbook were there was this guy teaching game to women. The guy basically said (paraphrasing) “girls, if you act hard to get, and bitch about how men dont have balls to approach you, guess what? you will only meet and endless supplied of players, who will move on when they’re done with you”. So woman are adapting too, as the article said, “traditional girls” suddenly started poppíng out everywhere.
he never charge me a penny, and well he wrote books that were charged, but to be honest we all gotta eat. It was not a bad exchange if you ask me (learn game)
I think Roosh has been doing his best work ever in his most recent videos.
Nollagirl is that you???
Black loving race shaming CUNT!!!
Lauren is that you???
You nasty jew CUNT!!! This is for you: YIMAK SHEMO!!!
You just described the modern manosphere and it’s alt-right superset.
If we wanted pussy worshiping manginas by our side, we would be leftists.
Just the whining of a fat, bald, ugly creep who can’t get a woman.
You must be the one on here giving downvotes to some of our comments.
GTFO, bitch.
True he is weird and fat , but his message is spot on
Found the woman.
Women are always easy to spot because the immediate goto reaction from them when they’re getting BTFO is to shame you for not being able to get laid.
A woman with a dick?
They call them trannies.
STFU and GTFO.
Yeah Forney’s fat. So what? Nobody around here is looking to have sex with him.
He doesn’t let it hold him back, so in a way Forney’s fat works for him.
Forney doesn’t have any of the pretty boy charm working for him, he’s the ultimate fish-eyed cynic. You don’t get much bullshit from him, because he hasn’t had any served up to him to swallow to begin with.
Yeah, bitches like you complain about his looks, but that’s OK.
Nobody here is looking at his picture.
We’re reading his stuff and judging it on the merits.
Yeah Forney’s fat. So what?
The point, is that those who are representing the manosphere should adhere to an intense physical workout routine. A LARGE part of “redpill” is essentially working out and being the best you can.
#CuntPosting
Reframe your view on women and condense that philosophy to the one solid truth that NEVER varies with any possessor of a vagina…. One sentence.
The laws of human female biology CANNOT ever be superceded overcome or ignored. That’s it, one sentence and it is linked to one immutable word.
Mother Nature forbids ANY tampering with her laws. It boils down to one word that women can never control.
HYPERGAMY.
Hypergamy is accomplished through the one common method ALL WOMEN use.
ATTENTION WHORING until they attract attach and then attack a dick and the man connected to it.
IGNORE any of the paste on convention labels ANY woman sticker to her a$$ or her shirt or her twitter or social media, or she verbalizes to define her. I refer back to the immutable truth above. FORGET any of their convenient labeling they call themselves, and you will find your dealings with them become so much simpler.
And what the fuck do you do, piece of shit? Attention whoring to get laid. Fuck you.
Just cut that useless dick off – it did nothing to benefit you anyway – and quit pestering women.
They owe you nothing, piece of shit. NO. FUCKING. THING.
Thank you for the confirmation/proof that my points were exactly on target. You didn’t even bother to mention just one point, you just went full retard triggered state. How I pity your life for all its failed to be. Victimhood must be your only claim because your name cant possibly be “SOMEone”, its NO one, Ms Peel and Stick label wearer.
Another hysterical female posting on a site that doesn’t want or need your opinions.
Quit pestering us with your vile feminist-marxist braying, you donkey cunt. Someone should punch you in the babymaker, since yours is poisoned and useless anyway.
I’m gonna call you Val from now on, in honor of Valerie Solanas.
… White men built the most comfortable society in history so women have rights and liberties to tell the men they owe them nothing.
The same argument my 6 year old sister made to my dad.
Please leave my safe place alone.
Eeew! Hey Lauren/Nollacunt/Rosewhodafuck!
Judging by your words:
–You are a fucking jew!
–You are DEFENITELY one of those 3 cunts this article was about!
–Did you attend the weekly meetings ( Shabbat..? ) with your local rabbi about what to post online in the next day to milk us goyim out from our hardly earned money??!
You sound like a smart dude, a very rare thing on white supremacists sites like this.
The problem with tradthots is that they’re not alt-right, they’re not right wing, and they’re not traditionalists. They’re total frauds. They’re leftist feminists in disguise.
Ask any of these tradthots their opinions on the following issues:
-abortion
-birth control (and the promiscuity that it enables)
-women voting
-divorce
-women in higher education
-women having careers
They support most if not all of the above, and when a real man advocates for real traditionalism and patriarchy then these same thots will also make fun of you as being for “sharia law”. The only thing that separates a Lauren Southern from a Jessica Valenti is that Lauren wants the borders closed. They both want a degenerate anti-family, feminist society, the only difference is one of them doesn’t want any browns around for it.
Lauren Southern did more for the “dissident right” just by being a pretty face and getting arrested with some Generation Identity folks than Forney has done since he stopped writing as Ferdinand Bardamu(which, no offense was a horrible career move).
I’ve been involved in the far right for a long time. The women who do end up in these circles tend to be a little crazier with some quite interesting backgrounds(though so are the men though the percentage of normal men is higher than the percentage of normal women). They also tend to burn out much easier and change their beliefs much faster based off of changing power dynamics rather than on reason. There are definitely things to be aware of with regards to women but in this battle of the tradthots vs thot potrollers I’m definately on the side of the tradthots(btw, I loathe the word thot… why did we adopt that ghetto term).
The biggest problem with the “dissident right” are people who’ve been a part of it for a long time who get jealous of those who come later having success saying much the same thing. I hate the criticism of these women that they have no original ideas. All that matters is that the ideas spread. And I’m sorry, but Matt Forney, Richard Spencer, and Andrew Anglin are not good faces to present any idea with.
Richard Spencer’s famewhoring is 100x more a danger to the “dissident right” than any of these women. His spectacular idiotic mismanaging of the “alt-right” meme when it could have just been HBD + Anti-PC is frankly why there is so much internal conflict now.
Continue coping with your White Knight ways cuck
While I can’t argue with this article, it is correct, I also can’t help it, I find Brittany Pettibone hot and would definitely bang her if ever given the chance.
On the flip-side of the negatives about trad-hots I also see a positive: they try to dress and act in a way that would be good for girls to imitate. Girls are followers, that’s a given, and it’s better they follow women with long hair, good bodies and un-slutty attire than the fem-beasts. Right? I mean who would you prefer a fantasy fuck with? Give me a girl dressed like trad-hot than a feminist any day of the week.
Your thirst for Brittney is precisely why she was able to make a bunch of money and start dating a chad.
I’ve seen two videos of hers on youtube. Never commented (actually I never have commented on any video on youtube). So tell me how, exactly, Mr. I-Fucking-Know-Shit-And-Stuff—-Man, how I helped her succeed and start dating Chad, whoever he is?
Fuck you chaps sometimes come off as gay. What? So a guy can never state that a girl is hot? Wow.
found the orbiter
Let me ask you a couple of simple questions. Feel free to ignore.
1. Do you know what she looks like? If so, how (assuming you’ve never seen a video of hers)?
2. Do you think she’s ugly?
3. Do you want girls to dress like her, or feminists?
And… sure enough, while it took the OnceFutureKing 2 seconds to respond to my previous post, it’s a no show for the last one calling out his hypocrisy.
I’m all for new people to join in on the comments section, and I understand their desire to fit in, but using catch-phrases like, “Male thirst,” doesn’t make you red-pilled, it just makes you a cliche of what we represent. We don’t represent hating all women, that’s MGTOW, we represent a reasoned response to the maddness of modern day society. We represent critical thinking. We represent trying to improve yourself (gym, game, whatever).
I do wish new members well, but I also wish they WOULD orbit more and get a feel for this site before trying to sprout their nuggets of wisdom.
So is it bad to say that I’d bang Lauren Southern?
Nice fallacy, Im not watching the computer 24/7 all day like you.
Anyways your entire comment reeked of whiteknightery. “I prefer women who act like trads”. What does it matter? If you care only about fornication, then what difference does it make if you bang some Kylie Jenner wannabe instead?
Clearly you have a softer spot for women who spout sensible sounding talking points, and thats the problem that lead to the mess the alt right is in right now in the first place.
No, OnceFutureKing, I stated that I liked the way she looked and that’s all. Did I say Brittney makes good points that I agree with? No. Did I say she makes poor points that I disagreed with? No. Did I say I like girls who look like her? Yes.
Look I know you want to fuck Roosh in the ass, hence whatever he says must be correct, but I don’t. I just use this site. His number one gripe with these girls comes down to jealousy that they’re using his/our material and making money off it. Well, let’s be fair, he sucks at marketing himself. Sure, he can write game, but when it comes to talking in front of the camera, he’s not that good at it, not smooth at all.
So keep thinking you’re scoring points that will make you a man by trouting out the classic lines like, orbiter, or sjw, or white knight, but it would help if you understood what those words mean first.
Or… how about you take your teenage head out of your ass.
Umm…kinda weird that you picture Roosh doing stuff like that, but w/e.
Anyways his message isn’t about jealousy, thats just what the tradsluts say to emasculate men who call them out. Its about calling out the hypocrisy of women who advocated traditional values to get views and money, while at the same time not practicing what they preach, its the equivalent to a 300 lb fat guy giving you fitness advice.
Its not about marketing. Its pretty obvious why a cute girl with extremely basic bitch talking points can garner a generous amount of subscribers in a month, because sex sells and plenty of thirsty betas are willing to line up to indulge in findom.
How do they dress that is conservative or even act in ways that women should imitate? I am legitimately curious.
Also, lol @ your obvious statement of you would bang so and so if given the chance as if that doesn’t apply to all of us. Since when is bangability in question during this discussion?
@ Friz,
Did I say conservative. Just re-read my OP. Nope, definitely didn’t say that. So why misquote me? I said, “[they] dress and act in a way that would be good for girls to imitate.” Did I really need to spell out that I was meaning feminine? Fuck your laziness and presumptions.
You: “Since when is bangability in question during this discussion?”
Me: since THAT was the only positive point I could make about trad-hots. That they project an image, that if other girls imitate, would improve my surroundings, since I find feminine women attractive.
You’re really not scoring IQ points here. But, hey, you’re black, I shouldn’t really expect more from you. Go shoot some hoops.
Decided to get emotional I see. Ok. Well anyway.
How is it feminine to be some loudmouth clucking in Youtube as some authority figure? Feminine is an attitude that is opposite and complementary to masculinity. Being dressed nicely and having makeup is such a small part of that. These women act masculine as authority figures. That isn’t traditionally a woman’s place so they aren’t trad/fem at all. A woman sitting on her soapbox and yelling to a mostly male audience isn’t traditional. This is why they are feminine. Most of the people watching these cunts are men anyway as I don’t even know many women who give two shits about their existence. If these women wanted to lead women then they’d form groups where they taught feminine values to their daughters and their peers. Cooking, being homemakers, childbearing, etc.
But do these women do that? No. They repeat talking points of MEN and mostly cater to a male audience on male subjects. These women aren’t teaching girls shit. Women don’t follow them, and if they do, they follow them into being anti natal, lonely cat women. But hey, muh cute girls and sheeeit.
And you don’t know what I look like nor have I ever implied I was Black. My background is basic White middle American of far removed northwest European extraction I don’t identify with but that’s not even relevant to the discussion.
Well, then you missed my point entirely. My point is entirely based on female behaviour. You’re using logic saying that what these women say is the issue. Well, for the imitation game, it isn’t really. This may be confusing without an example.
Take Kim Kardashian. She’s helped shape female behaviour in modern times, which is unfortunate. But did she become an figure to emulate because of what she said? No. She became someone a bunch of girls imitated purely based on 2 things. 1. She’s famous and gets to hang out at fashion shows and shit. 2. She’s famous and gets to hang out at fashion shows and shit. Girls don’t give a flying fuck that she’s a dumb cunt. They look at her clothing and who she’s fucking and that’s it.
So my point regarding trad-hots is, I don’t give a fuck that they’re fake, that they’re using our talking points, that they are un-traditional behind closed doors. It just doesn’t matter to me one bit. What I do care about is the image they’re projecting and whether it’s one that would be beneficial for girls to imitate (clothing, makeup, acting feminine).
I happen to like the look they’ve adopted, and if they were promoting fat asses you’d agree with me (since you’ve made your taste pretty clear on this site).
I genuinely don’t understand why it’s so hard to fathom this.
Your point would stand if women actually cared to follow politics the way they follow IG thots. They don’t. How does that not register? And on a bangability scale most of these women are hot and I haven’t even seen their backsides. I won’t be some fucking wannabe Chad and claim they’re ugly or anything. Of course they’re bangable. But if and when women follow political pundits at a great degree then your point might have sense but as of right now it’s only men who care to follow these thots because of male thirst.
Realistically if we want more women to follow our movement, we have to be better men and stronger too. That is what will get women to follow us. It starts at home. Are we training our women to be soft, feminine, and not subvert us? If so, then good. I know I do that with my woman. If you do, then that matters 6 million times more than some thot who exists purely to fuel male thirst. Your Kim K example is also helpful to my point. Lauren southern and company don’t engage in the pop culture promotion like Kim K and company do. Kim K markets herself to women. Lauren does not. Lauren is entirely marketing for men. No woman really cares about her existence and for good reason: she doesn’t push any sort of feminine. . .anything
So, basically, you’re saying you agree that these women COULD be an influence if they had a larger market, and that would have a net gain. And I agree.
So, then tell me what the net gain is for Roosh and you lot trying to kick them into obscurity rather than push them to be better at what they do?
As a disclaimer, I don’t watch their videos, there is nothing to gain for me, no special insights and yet, when they first started popping up on youtube I was pretty darn happy about it, and assumed the red pill community would be too. Why? Because I see it as a nice little fuck you to the feminist brigade that we got the hot girls, and they have the ugly dykes. This is a good thing. What sane girl who hasn’t been indoctrinated into either cause/mindset would choose to even entertain listening to a screeching feminist harpie that looks like a dyke who hasn’t fucked a decent guy in decades over a trad-hot who is swarming in male attention? Girls are followers, we should nurture our trad-hots and use them as recruiters.
Anyway, I think I’ve made my point clear (multiple times over now). Signing out.
Bravo, It needed saying
You can never trust thots, but I lost all respect for Matt Forney after seeing him runaway from two soyboy gay guys then hiding behind a cop with tears in his eyes.
yeah that video was pretty questionable lol
Do you know what would happen if an Alt Right blogger decided to deck a homo in the face? Not only would there be charges, but his enemies would be fully vindicated in leading a sanction against him, potentially ruining his writing career.
Besides, Roosh had to hide out in a mosque in Canada when feminists attacked him, its not like we can all turn into Bruce Lee when a mob attacks us lol
Bruh I agree with all your comments on thus particular discussion except this one. Not one of those incels raised their hand much less their voice to Forney. Him walking backwards in such a hurried and scared fashion definitely gave off vibes of weakness for the alt right.
The full context of the video is on Red Ice’s coverage of Trump’s inauguration. The two homos were taunting him sexually in order to emasculate and provoke a reaction out of him.
It was embarrassing to watch, but realistically if he fought back, then he would be in shit.
They did get a reaction out of him. They scared him off. In contexts like that I always defer to the stiff upper lip theory. Don’t let people get reactions out of you. Let them strike first as well. He let them get to him emotionally and on top of that he scurried away even though they neither raised their voices nor touched him. It’s the same as dealing with a woman. You keep a cool head and let her emote like a little bitch. You don’t give her the satisfaction of seeing you react.
Even if he looked cowardly or not, he would have been called a pussy either way for not fighting back.
In the situation you described, men usually get called a pussy for not putting a bitch in her place. Remember when Beyonce’s little sister beat the crap out of Jay Z?
But I do agree with you that holding frame is key.
Who said anything about not fighting back? I specifically said let them strike first. Either that or just don’t show up to those events if you’re not about that life which clearly he is not
Wow, just watched it. What a wimp! This guy’s about as far from “alpha” as you can get.
Women are terrible decision makers. Yeah they might give you advice on fashion and how to raise a daughter, but politics, religion, and other things are a man’s domain. Like the Bible said, if she’s not married, then let her father decide what’s best for her. If she is married, then let her husband have the final say. Women are supposed to follow men, they should not be allowed to vote. If these women are conservative women, they should have lots of babies, teach their sons to be providers, and teach their daughters to be homemakers. These women are a bunch of attention whores.
Why would anyone want to control any human? Don’t pretend these backward ideas are for any good reason. You guys just want hot women that are easy to control. You guys just want obedient house slaves that you can fuck on command.
Yes because women lead such fulfilling lives when they slut it up for near 2 decades followed by lonely wallowing of misery.
You think I want to control my wife? I want her to have as much freedom as possible so she can be a full-time mom, go shopping anytime she wants, and take care of the home. I want a woman who LOVES to be a homemaker, and wants to raise kids to have traditional values. Women don’t belong in the workforce or politics, they are HAPPY at home. Go ahead and destroy your life but my woman will be treated like a Queen, and if is LOVES to be my “house slave,” then what can you say? My mom always said “don’t try to change a girl, just find another one,” I’m just glad that there are woman out there who WANT to submit to a man.
http://narrative-collapse.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Fearless-Girl-Right-Wing-Ladies-777×397.png
One picture says more than a thousand words…thots indeed.
Id love to see pretty faces, but all I can see is disgusting self entitled attitudes in their smirks..F**k them. Not a sing iota of honesty showing in any of them either.
Blonde in the Belly of the Beast, second row, 3rd from the right, also casually mentioned dating a Hindu / Sikh in Canada in one of her videos. Pretty hard to take seriously someone who claims to be for traditionalism and closed borders but who has dated a Hindu / Sikh. Seems like she wants to keep brown men sufficiently scarce in numbers that they stay exotic.
Let’s not just be haters.
Lana Lokteff is doing her part. Correct me if I’m wrong but she is a good wife, mother, supports Heinrik, and she names the Jew.
She sets the standard for a female Altright personality in my opinion.
Thots and Prayers, but even God can’t save them.
Thots and Players?
To be fair, A Wife With A Purpose and Lana are both married with children, so they at least practice what they preach. The rest of them though are still living like Mary Tyler Moore while making money off of thirsty betas.
Also I thought the one on the bottom right was Anita Sarkeesian.
Some of them are actually pretty edgy with what they are saying…Tara at least had a child and is married, and for the most part she is not like Lauren Southern running around in tight pants. Not all women are equal and some of these women are a lot better than others….hell, Tara’s YouTube channel got shut down for like 3 months because she talked about race and IQ.
Most of these women (Tara McCarthy in specific) are what is known as ‘reformed sluts/ho’s’.
reformed slut
one who once practiced promiscuous sex, but has since dedicated her/himself to long-term conservative relationships. In America reformed sluts usually engage in promiscuous sex during the ages of 18-23, since these are also prime years for developing life long interests, reformed sluts will hardly have developed skills for any non-academic interests: cooking, dedication to engaging in sports, general taste in music, cleaning, outdoorsmanship, bilingualism, etc. This is usually referred to as bimboism.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=reformed%20slut
I am not going to pretend to know what Tara use to be like…but the what she is saying and the culture she is supporting may help other women not become so….I like incentivizing good behavior, just putting ALL women in the same basket for EVERYTHING (yes, I know all women share similar attributes) is not good. If you have two women, one is just whoring it up on the internet and not having kids while the other use to be a whore but now she has kids and supports traditionalism, than I would say the woman who supports traditionalism deserves a little more respect and shouldn’t be put in the same basket as the other bitch.
You do realize that a lot of people are brainwashed and many will begin waking up in the future, and that is good, but once they wake up it is not wise to just COMPLETELY throw them under the bus. Doesn’t mean you cannot criticize them, but still.
000% ( sorry typing mistake! )
“McCarthy recently commented on Twitter that “the Alt Right is not about fighting feminism, it’s about taking control of our demographics,”
The specific tweet
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQN6o5zWsAA5Gx0.jpg
Matt Forney is a fat cuck who liked about how many women he sleeps with, but he is 100% correct on this issue of females in the alt right.
Matt Forney is a fat cuck who lies about how many women he sleeps with, but he is 100% correct on this issue of females in the alt right.
These cunts are so transparent, and the “alt-lite” won’t disavow them even when their fucking perfidy is revealed to the world, i.e. the case of Tomi Lahren and her ‘pro-choice’ statements. Either she caved to pressure, or was exactly the type as this article points out. But I saw that aforementioned cunt coming a mile away, esp. with the thot-colored hair.
Lauren Southern has the same look, and I wasn’t exactly sure where she existed on the spectrum, but I sure as shit didn’t trust her. Looks like my instincts were proved right AGAIN.
Faith Goldy seems not have tripped my Distant Early Warning system. She may be legit, but who the fuck knows.
Good article.
Tomi Lahren is the worst of all, she’s openly sleeping with a gorilla and bragging about it on social media. That’s why the top kykes at Fox News gave her a slot. She’s good for demoralizing goyboys.
If I didn’t know her and you’d ask me to guess her occupation, I would’ve said porn actress. In fact she kinda looks like the one who offed herself yesterday.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/9ouLaBB3S0E/maxresdefault.jpg
Man, she was really betting on that botox to stop her from hitting the wall XD
Faith Goldy is a SHINING EXAMPLE of a nasty JEEEEEEEEEEEW, who’s pretending to be christian greek or whatnot!!!
Everybody with HALF A BRAIN can tell that tis woman on this picture is a FULL GROWN JEW!!!
( The “frog mouth”, the “crooked eyes”, the “khazar facial bone structure”, and My list goes on and on…! )
this ( sorry typo mistake! )
YEP! CONFIRMED!!: FAITH GOLDBERG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What kind of Greek is named Faith Goldy anyway? That is literally an impossible scenario. Bitch didn’t even do her homework on goy names.
Rebel is trash…it is just another Libertarian run site where all they talk about is oil and taxes, more than likely so that Ezra can keep his shekels. Anyone who watches that dumbass channel for anyone other than some Gavin jokes is a moron.
I’ve literally always thought she looked like a pornstar. Not a specific one, but just that she is trying to look like one.
Half of these disgusting bitches are mudsharking and that’s why the jewmedia promotes them to positions of influence within the (((alt-lite))). It’s just another demoralization play. Get the chumps all excited and then reveal the object of their affection to be a repulsive traitor.
If you watch any of these women you are a complete loser, end of story. If you have ever given a nickle to any of them, you should just find the nearest bridge and jump.
The lesson here is that NO straight woman is right-wing. Not a single one. The only way to make a woman pretend to be right wing for a while is to be the dominant alpha in her world. As soon as you are gone, she reverts back to the default for women – liberal lunacy.
The only women who truly embrace right-wing ideology are high-T lesbians such as Ann Coulter.
This is why national destruction follows female suffrage just as surely as mud puddles follow rainstorms.
Prob. giving Ann Coulter too much credit, (wasn’t she banging Bill Maher?) but that statement is sound.
I would say that feminine women have to be molded. They cannot formulate specific opinions on their own.
Actually Ann Coulter is banging J.J. Walker from Good times (Dy-no-mite!). Look it up.
No she is not you black pill shill and possible cuck porn fetishist. She’s a lesbo and he’s just a friend and a beard. Checked and verified.
I think your cause is lost when your taking head idols (Ann Coulter) must appear to be a mudshark with JJ Walker in public lest it be known that she’s in fact a lesbian. That’s like Johhny Appleseed telling you to eat corn. Doesn’t make sense!
No, she never appeared in public as if they were fucking. It was the libtarded media desperate to expose her as a mudshark that used tabloid tactics to make it appear so. Easily fooled young chaps like yourself took the bait and did their (((legwork))) for them. Pat yourself on the back you’re a living meme.
Ann probably figured everyone was smart enough to assume that she and Walker are both homos, looks like she misunderestimated the rabble.
I tried telling you people that young white women today hate their own men. Moreover, I tried telling you that these women are not going for some mythical 7 ft tall pitch black basketball playing Zulus. They are going for these effete goofy off-white machiato blacks and Pakis and Indians, etc.
From the video:
“Let’s kill that idea that there’s a traditional woman out there. If there is, she’s not gonna be on the damn internet guys. She’s not going to be fishing for compliments, fishing for attention. No, she gonna be a nobody in some kind of really particular community, church, small town. A real trad girl is gonna hate these girls, hate all the attention that they are getting when they are not being honest. And none of these girls are religious anyways.”
A very important message that men need to think about.
If she’s monetizing herself in any way, no matter what she says or her ideas, she’s not traditional.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQKYMc_XkAQ7IwE.jpg
Just yesterday;
the youtuber called AngryMGTOW said 2018 will be
The Year Men Will Have Nothing To Do With Women.
He was right before!
He said 2017 will be
The Year Feminism As A Label Will Die.
Earlier this year; even Laci Green
dropped the feminist label.
Angry mgtow for the most part is eccentric as fuck, but he makes realistic trend claims.
Angry MGTOW is gay. Sandman and Howard Dare are much better.
Only female I can respect that repeats Red Pill knowledge is Karen Straughn, her skin in the game is her son and she aint pretty
BS, she cucked out of a debate with the Manhood Academy real hard. It’s not like those guys trolled her, they merely disagreed with her on something and like a woman she got butthurt and cut them off air.
Then she charged them $500 for the privilege of debating her.
What a coward and a fraud.
Did not hear about that, I’ll have to look it up
Manhood Academy got holocausted. The record no longer exists.
There’s only one woman I listen to for political opinions and she’s a old lady.
Lauren Southern is a spook and the alt-right is a spook movement.
Regarding what Roosh says in the video. There’s nothing wrong with hating the Zionist Trump as long as you hate him for the right reasons.
No surprise. Once again AWALT proven true.
I don’t know who these women are but in my opinion, a true conservative woman would never allow herself to become a public figure.
Whether you believe in God or evolution, female humans and primates have always been the support group for the man and family. They are happier this way and there’s plenty of research on people and primates as well as biblical examples ( take your pick.).
A woman being a public figure or attempting to be the leader of anything is a very unwise decision on her part and is proof in itself that she is not conservative.
Just like watching a porn actress please a man. You think she gets off work and treats her husband and family well? It’s all an act for the money.
But maybe some guys already knew that and just enjoyed the fantasy?
One of the surest sign you have a good woman on your hands is when she shies away from the spotlight, and becomes bashful with attention.
Heres no reason to look like a fucki g idiot and attack these twats.
They should be ignored and their manlet klingons marginalized.
E celebs are cancer.
Private Pyle you had best square your ass away and start shitting me Tiffany cufflinks or I will definitely fuck you up!
lol
I’d only trust them if they were married to alt-right alpha men. Because only then would we know where their loyalties lie.
Glad you guys made this point and an article about it. It was obvious to me from get-go, but for some cuckful men, it actually isn’t. B.S. female stardom, where the only marginally honest day’s work they’ve done, is mediocre workouts in the gym added to already decent genetic looks….. so basically, nothing but some college, clicked likes, and fagatron followers.
Good genetics? You give these thots too much credit. Take their makeup off and see their 6/10 barely fuckable faces boyo
Best way to do NoFap: Look at Lauren Southern’s face with MakeAPP.
Roosh wrote a book about her. It’s called “Don’t Bang Denmark”
Too bad to see Kevin MacDonald play the white knight. He should have understood the power relationships between the sexes from evolutionary theory a long time ago. Just like other boomers, he remains blind to the realities of the sexual marketplace and female degenerate behaviour. Deep down boomers are psychological slaves. Only the genXers and millenials have started emancipating from that crazy shit.
In a truly traditionalist society, women wouldn’t be mouthing off on Youtube vids with their autistic screeching. They’d be servicing their masters or being kept at home.
A woman having such a platform and men beating off to her shows how pathetic men have become. Add that to the whole coping movement of “muh aesthetically pleasing girls” of these faggot incels who want these women to peg them and you’ve got a recipe for disaster.
Men who feed this shit are the problem. We have allowed this to happen. What I am glad about ROK is the majority of us don’t want anything to do with these wolves in sheep’s clothing.
Inb4 some screeching autist comes in here telling me I can’t get laid because I dared to disagree with a woman. [email protected] White Knights and their fembot masters. Kill thyself now
Matt,
A few years ago you were banging brown monkey girls in the Philipinnes.
So was Andrew Anglin.
You were also once a fanboy for the Jewish leftists Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi.
People’ politics change, just like yours have.
I’ll admit that Faith Goldie has some nice dick sucking lips!
does toomi lahren qualify? seems she was promoting conservative values while benefitting from Obamacare policy she was on..didn’t glen beck fire her ? thought it had to do with her belief on abortion? (correct me if I’m wrong)
You do not need women to support you in order to succeed.
The Taliban needed no female support base, neither does the Saudi Royal Family.
When Hitler was forming the NSDAP during the hard days of violent protests, street fights with Communist thugs and treacherous police there was not a woman in sight.
As Napoleon once said; women are nothing but machinery for making babies. Let’s not lose sight of that fact.
Beware of the Trojan Horse…
“Hanrahan” is rumored to be Milo Y’s real last name.
Referencing an article from the Shameless Lies and Propaganda Center (SPLC).. Seriously??? Anyhow I always suspected that these tradthots were all high-libido attention whores.
Women don’t have their own ideas. They adopt the ideas of whoever is paying/fucking them. The best way to get more chicks to be alt-right is to marry them and be a fucking man about it.
Meh. I don’t understand your fixation on and worries about these women. Support them while they are useful, dispose of them when they aren’t. The alt right needs presentable young women for marketing purposes. And frankly, the alt right doesn’t have many representatives at this stage of either sex that are presentable to the public. Stefan Molyneaux is about the closest I can think of. Worry about weeding people out after there is an overabundance of alternatives.
Women simply are spoils of war to be captured by the victors. They do no fighting. Once captured they either accept their role to their new master or die in refusal to serve. These women are not serving us in any way. They are subverting us by telling us to fuck off at the idea that we dare expect them to pair bond and procreate (you know, practice what they supposedly preach). In other words, they espouse views we are against. So no, they aren’t doing us any marketing favors since all they attract are cucked White knights who HARM the right just by existing and elevating these thots to goddess status.
Social media really should not be used by women. Or let me rephrase that. Until White knight phags are purged from social media, women therein will just use it to attention whore and assert their independence. How is that helpful to masculinity? We are trying to fix relations between the sexes not sever them even further.
Sandman coined the term “Chameleons”. Chameleons gonna chameleon.
Tradthots!!! LOL!
Tradthots!!! LOL!
Tradthots truly are the Ugly Stepsisters of Wife-material Cinderellas. Slutting it up, trying to get the prince and the ball and the glory all for themselves and keep the other girls at home! Don’t let ’em win!
I think they are useful.
Just like Milo.
They can and will recruit far better than most men. And can say those bad bad words without being called a misogynist and shut down.
Women don’t get recruited by these methods. Better off having an aesthetically pleasing male.
Don’t marry a woman who isn’t going to be a happy housewife.
Have and raise Christian children, and be their teacher when it comes to faith.
Be a patriarch, not just a father, husband, employee and man. A man who isn’t a patriarch is most often a tool just aching to be shaped or a horse to be harnessed, whether by a woman of sufficient skill or his betters.
We can blame our consumption of media for the rise an alt-goldbrickers. If we want to point fingers, we need a mirror first.
HAHA ” Alt – right ” women busted !
“No one goes from being a socialist to alt right in that short a period of time unless they’re a grifter or insane”
That’s not necessarily true. There seems to be plenty of people in the alt right who see ethno-nationalism as “socialism for people within the ethnos” and see capitalism as inherently globalizing and destructive of traditional identities. If the alt right were smart and well-led, it would be trying to recruit confused socialist vegans and the like.
I agree but it’s quite comedic when this is pointed out by the fat manlet who wrote “Do the Philippines.”
I agree that Lauren Southern and Tara McCarthy are some jokes. But don’t throww out baby with bathwater and give Laure Rose and Faithy Gold some credit. It may be truth they have plenty of beta orbiters. Nevertheless I think as long as they are genuuine and informative (in the sense they are representative to the dissident right message) they should have some niche. They are important in the sense they have more influence on the un-pilled female audience then most males have.
Therefore my view on that is foollowing: see them as temporary ally – as long as they provide valuable information and hold themselves to decent moral standards they themselves preach.
Tbh I don’t really believe the post itself about Southern since it was a) clearly written by a woman 2) seems to be written by a brown woman and c) doesn’t seem like someone who liked her at all.
So it’s intrasexual, racial, and personal resentment.
The pictures are of course still true.
And I think this article hits the right note. As does Forney
https://altright.com/2017/12/07/the-woman-question/
the reddit post I mean. I think it’s probably embellished for extra effect. Not the post written by Forney. Realized that was unclear.
Pussy nerds stating they’re the real representatives of traditional values. Glass houses! These girls have a roll to play. Youtube is a visual medium and attractive women get hits. Big deal. I personally don’t give a crap whether all of these girls are self-serving sociopaths faking their beliefs. They’re still spreading the message, and some of them (Lauren Rose and Faith Goldy in particular) do it well. Just keep on pressuring them to practice what they preach.
Disappointed I bought (through a free credit but still) Lauren Southern’s book. That said, I never expected anything other than a good read. Didn’t get to the part about her camwhoring yet though. Narcissism knows many manifestations.
This sounds a lot like white sharia to me…I see what you’re saying however I’ve seen this kind of rhetoric echoed by vandal dickriders.
This bitter fat fuck is still butthurt because white women won’t fuck him.
@Fitz
Arab? I see a white woman there
Why do you insinuate that she is Arab? For his brown eyes?
Well … then Jim Carrey is also Arab … and Johnny Knoxville too. Wtf!
Hey, everyone, look at Matt Forney being an alpha male:
Interesting and very true article.
Kudos to you, Matt, for unabashedly citing Andrew Anglin. Milo ridiculously referrs to himself as the most censored person on the Internet. However that distinction most certainly goes to Anglin. This was the first time to my knowledge that a legal website was actually banned from the web. I suspect it won’t be the last. Could ROK become the next banned site?
Cracks are already starting to show in the alt right look at the Trad Thot scandal, give it another 5 to 10 years the Alt right will probably collapse. There is no political solution to white genocide the Alt right is controlled opposition, its full of Jews and homosexuals.
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